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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Scott,<br><br>You really think the 4th Amendment will protect you? It's far more likely that another exception will be carved out of its tattered remains.<br><br>What really troubles me, across the board, is our 'Partisan Gotcha' approach to politics. When Bush was doing terrible things, liberals were able to recognize it, while conservatives defended him. Now Obama does the same things, and liberals defend him. Conservatives attack him on domestic policy issues, and where there are screw-ups like Benghazi, but agree with him on most foreign policy matters. Glenn Greenwald has been writing about this for some time; apparently liberals didn't really object to the policy, just the people who were carrying it out.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:26:21 -0700<br>From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com; thansen@moscow.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">Don't worry about it. They are just tightening the screws every chance they get. I'm sure it will all end well, since I can't fathom that my government would ever do me wrong.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com>; Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> viz <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 7, 2013 9:57 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S.
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<div><div dir="ltr">Neither particularly scare me. And if those working in security departments for US government gather data on me in a way that violates the 4th amendment such that this info can't be used against me in a court of law, then I'm already protected. What should I be worrying about that I'm currently not concerned about? Public humiliation if this info is released to the masses?<br><br><div><hr id="ecxyiv2365424722stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 08:42:53 -0700<br>From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>To: thansen@moscow.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Yes, events like that happen (rarely). Does that scare the piss out of you so much that you think it's OK to watch everyone all
the time?</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Paul<br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen
<thansen@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com>; KRFP <krfp@radiofreemoscow.org>; viz <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 7, 2013 8:32 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program<br> </font> </div> <div class="ecxyiv2365424722ecxy_msg_container"><br><div id="ecxyiv2365424722ecxyiv6847700638"><div><div style="">Paul Rumelhart declared:</div><div style=""><br></div><div><span style="">"</span><span style="">I'm personally about as scared of dying today in a terrorist attack as I am of seeing Tom Hansen and Doug Wilson throw down their gauntlets and become best buds."</span></div><div><span style=""><br></span></div><div><span style="">I'll second that! It's not like I will ever run in the Boston Marathon.</span></div><div><br><div style="">Seeya at the Wingding, Moscow, because . . .</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div style=""><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div style=""> </div><div style=""><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div><span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style=""><br></span></font></div><div style=""><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div style=""><br></div></div><div style=""><br>On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote style="">I'm personally about as scared of dying today in a terrorist attack as I am of seeing Tom Hansen and Doug Wilson throw down their gauntlets and become best buds. </blockquote></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div><br>=======================================================
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