<div dir="ltr"><div>So there was 9-11. That justified the decades+ war on terrorism, but of course the terrorist persists. If there's a threat something must be done, right? But when do we go too far? <br><br>Maybe we went to far initially, when we invaded Iraq. Maybe our current situation is just a continuance of a very bad, fear-driven policy that started awhile ago, and maybe we are just feeling the brunt of that bad policy because it has inevitably flipped back on us. We weep about lost rights but, as Sunil has noted, much of the rest of the world weeps about lost lives.<br>
<br></div>What I'd like to see is the right take a REAL stand against big government and stop the big U.S. war machine. Stop complaining about the consequences of the bad policy and get to the root of the problem.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:48 PM, KRFP <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krfp@radiofreemoscow.org" target="_blank">krfp@radiofreemoscow.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Yeah, and the First and the Fifth. Here again I have the rare
occurrence of agreeing with Paul.<br>
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At this point (actually since 911) I am WAY more afraid of my own
government then any so called "terrorist". And I don't mind if they
know that, obviously, since I posted this. <br>
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Dave<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 6/6/2013 9:16 PM, Paul Rumelhart
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I'm talking about the 4th Amendment, mainly.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 06/06/2013 06:13 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><I'd rather have my rights.><br>
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Could you be any less specific? If anyone's constitutional
rights are being trampled from this data mining then we
already have a system in place to roll back the worst abuses.<br>
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<div>> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:16:17 -0700<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
> Subject: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data
from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program<br>
> <br>
> Here is the URL for a story from the Washington Post
about yet another <br>
> data mining warrantless wiretapping abuse.<br>
> <br>
>
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret</a>-<br>
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program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html<br>
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> I fear that this is just the beginning of the
"revelations" to come. <br>
> It's been going on for years. I'm hoping that The
People will get so <br>
> mad about this that we can begin the process of rolling
back some of the <br>
> worst abuses that have taken place in order to "keep us
safe". Screw <br>
> safety. I'd rather have my rights.<br>
> <br>
> Paul<br>
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