<div dir="ltr">Dear Visionaries,<div><br></div><div style>Just another fact to consider: most Catholic colleges and universities have student bodies that sometimes are largely non-Catholic. They are definitely not like New St. Andrews College.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>The rule is entirely appropriate.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Nick</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ron Force <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span><font size="3">The question is not whether the students have a right to religion or expression, just whether Gonzaga will recognize it as an official student organization. Most college and universities have a </font>nondiscrimination<font size="3"> clause for official recognition. Here's the link to the University of North Carolina's:</font></span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><span><font size="3"> </font></span><a href="http://www.unc.edu/campus/policies/studentorgnondiscrim.html" target="_blank">http://www.unc.edu/campus/policies/studentorgnondiscrim.html</a></div>
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It states that student religious organizations may limit their membership to those who affirm that they support the goals of the organization and agree with their beliefs, but they cannot exclude members who are not formally an official member of a particular religion.</div>
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The Knights of Columbus require official church membership:</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><span style="font-style:italic"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(202,196,180)">Membership in the Knights of Columbus is open to men 18 years of age or older who are practical (that is, practicing) Catholics in union with the Holy See. This means that an applicant or member accepts the teaching authority of the Catholic Church on matters of faith and morals, aspires to live in accord with the precepts of the Catholic Church, and is in good standing in the Catholic Church.</span><br>
</span></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-style:italic"> </span></div>
<div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">I note that Gonzaga doesn't have an explicit statement like UNC; however, it states that organizations have to conform to the University's ethos and goals, and has an extensive statement on diversity goals. Last I heard, their president was reviewing the decision.</div>
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Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<br></div> <div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>>; Moscow Vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Jeanne McHale <<a href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</a>>; Fritz Knorr <<a href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">fritzknorr@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 12, 2013 12:36 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Huh?<br> </font> </div> <div><br>
<div><div dir="ltr"><div>I am not a Catholic, but to my mind this is a clear violation of the First Amendment.</div><div>Roger<br><br><br><br><br></div><div style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(119,119,119);border-left-width:3px;border-left-style:solid">
-----Original Message-----<br>Subject: [Vision2020] Huh?<br>From: "Tom Hansen" <br>To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <br>Date: 04/11/13 22:46:28<br><br>
<div>Good for Gonzaga!</div>
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<div>Courtesy of the Daily Caller at:</div>
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<div><span style="font-weight:bold">Catholic Gonzaga University won't allow Catholic students to form Catholic group</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">Roman Catholic, Jesuit-affiliated Gonzaga University in Spokane, Washington has refused to recognize the Knights of Columbus as an official student group because - wait for it - the Knights of Columbus is a Catholic organization.</span></div>
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<div> <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">Gonzaga administrators notified the students who had sought the school's official seal of approval last month, reports </span><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">The Cardinal Newman Society's Catholic Education Daily.</span> </div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">"The Knights of Columbus, by their very nature, is a men's organization in which only Catholics may participate via membership," reads a letter written by Sue Weitz, vice president for student life. "These criteria are inconsistent with the policy and practice of student organization recognition at Gonzaga University."</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">Right here seems like a sufficiently good place to observe that Gonzaga is under the umbrella of the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) - a men's organization in which only Catholic men may participate via membership.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">Anyway, Weitz's letter went on to explain that she feels "strongly" about Gonzaga's "commitment to non-discrimination and inclusivity" and is troubled by the fact that "all members of a student Knights of Columbus group must be Catholic."</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">"If Gonzaga was an institution that served only Catholics and limited the benefits of the collegiate experience only to them, the decision-making process may have been different," she also opined. "To embrace the diversity and yet endorse a group based on faith exclusivity is a challenge that cannot be reconciled at this time."</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">Weitz did not respond to queries from Catholic Education Daily.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">The Knights of Columbus, founded in 1882 by a Connecticut priest, is the world's largest Catholic fraternal service organization.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">A student-organized Knights of Columbus branch was successfully established at Gonzaga in 1999. At some unspecified point thereafter, though, the group's officially-sanctioned status lapsed.</span></div>
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<div> <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">There also appears to be a building on Gonzaga's campus named after the Knights of Columbus. According to</span><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px"> </span><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">the GU Bulldog Blog, the bland, brick edifice houses a members-only bar called the Christopher Columbus Club. Members must pay a $20 fee, get referred by another member and be at least 21 years old. (There's also free food involved, and a t-shirt.)</span> </div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma;font-size:12px">The students seeking to resurrect the Knights of Columbus at Gonzaga spoke - anonymously - to The Catholic Daily. They said they are now weighing other options. One alternative is to form a group that is wholly separate from the school. Another possibility might be to establish a Knights of Columbus student group as part of the campus ministry.</span></div>
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<div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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