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<DIV>I vote we try the Finnish model....socialist, highly unionized, high
performing. It could be a start. </DIV>
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<DIV>Interesting graphic, Gary. One of the serious points of comparison is
what we spend for education is not what other nations call “education.”
For example, much of our funding for special education (which is important, but
nevertheless huge, ) other nations allocate under health services, etc.
I’m not claiming “apples and oranges” because it’s such a trite phrase, but it
really is difficult to talk about comparisons when the measures aren’t
comparable. One way we could save a bundle is to cut back on mandated
nationally-normed (supposedly) testing, which is making big money for these
companies, but works against excellent teaching. </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=moscowlocksmith@gmail.com
href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com">Gary Crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 08, 2013 11:24 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org
href="mailto:foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org">Friends of the Clearwater</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision
2020</A> ; <A title=jeannemchale@hotmail.com
href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">Jeanne McHale</A> ; <A
title=fritzknorr@gmail.com href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">Fritz Knorr</A> ;
<A title=bhaverstick@yahoo.com href="mailto:bhaverstick@yahoo.com">Brett
Haverstick</A> ; <A title=wild.idaho.rising.tide@gmail.com
href="mailto:wild.idaho.rising.tide@gmail.com">Wild Idaho Rising Tide</A> ; <A
title=helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu
href="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu">Helen Yost</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Idaho education task force holds community
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Donovan Arnold <SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN>They need a task force to figure out how to improve education in
the State of Idaho. Really? How about this suggestion, hire teachers, pay them
a livable wage, and supply them with materials to teach the children. Frankly
I am surprised that Idaho even cares about education considering it spends so
little money on education compared to about 45 other states and most of the
modern world. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Donovan J. Arnold</SPAN></DIV>
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readonly></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Moscow
Cares <<A href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com"
target=_blank>moscowcares@moscow.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Moscow Vision 2020 <<A
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Friends of the Clearwater <<A
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Jeanne McHale <<A href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com"
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target=_blank>bhaverstick@yahoo.com</A>>; Wild Idaho Rising Tide <<A
href="mailto:wild.idaho.rising.tide@gmail.com"
target=_blank>wild.idaho.rising.tide@gmail.com</A>>; Helen Yost <<A
href="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu"
target=_blank>helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu</A>> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, April 8, 2013 8:50
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Vision2020]
Idaho education task force holds community forums in April<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>With thanks to a friend and fellow Vision 2020 subscriber . . . </DIV>
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<DIV>Courtesy of the Idaho Statesman at:</DIV>
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education task force holds community forums in April</SPAN></DIV>
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more here: <A
href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/04/08/2525320/idaho-education-task-force-holds.html#storylink=cpy%23storylink=cpy"
target=_blank>http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/04/08/2525320/idaho-education-task-force-holds.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy</A></DIV>
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Idaho Task Force for Improving Education will hold a series of community
forums across the state in April.</SPAN></DIV>
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31-member task force is charged with developing recommendations to improve
public education in the state.</SPAN></DIV>
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Butch Otter proposed the task force in December and asked the State Board of
Education to appoint members, lead the discussion and develop a series of
recommendations in time for the 2014 Legislature.</SPAN></DIV>
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month’s forums will provide information and seek input on K-12 education
issues in Idaho.</SPAN></DIV>
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will be held at the following locations:</SPAN></DIV>
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Wednesday, April 10, 6:30 p.m. Nampa High School Little Theatre, 203 Lake
Lowell, Nampa.</SPAN></DIV>
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Thursday, April 11, 6:30 p.m. O’Leary Middle School auditorium, 2350 Elizabeth
Blvd., Twin Falls.</SPAN></DIV>
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Monday, April 15, 6:30 p.m. Meriwether Lewis Hall, Room 100, Lewis-Clark State
College, Lewiston.</SPAN></DIV>
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Tuesday, April 16, 6:30 p.m. Lake Coeur d’Alene Room, North Idaho College
Student Union Building, Coeur d'Alene.</SPAN></DIV>
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Monday, April 22, 6:30 p.m. Tingey Auditorium, University Place, 1776 Science
Center Drive, Idaho Falls.</SPAN></DIV>
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Tuesday, April 23, 6:30 p.m. Century High School, 7801 W. Diamondback Dr.,
Pocatello.</SPAN></DIV>
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Thursday, April 25, 6:30 p.m. Lincoln Auditorium, Idaho Capitol Building, 700
W. Jefferson, Boise.</SPAN></DIV>
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community forums in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho Falls and Boise will be streamed on
the web by Idaho Public Television at <A href="http://idahoptv.org/"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>idahoptv.org</A></SPAN></DIV>
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not able to attend one of the forums can provide feedback and comments via
email at <A href="mailto:taskforce@osbe.idaho.gov" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>taskforce@osbe.idaho.gov</A>.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>The community forums streamed from Coeur d’Alene, Idaho Falls and
Boise will be recorded and posted to "Moscow Cares" for public online
viewing.</SPAN><BR><BR>
<DIV>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</DIV>
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<DIV>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</DIV>
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<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
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</SPAN><BR style="FONT-SIZE: medium"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium">If you
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