<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Amen borther I agree with you Paul. </span></div><div><span>Sorry that some people have to make so personal</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose@cpcinternet.com>; 'Gary Crabtree' <moscowlocksmith@gmail.com>; 'Tom Hansen'
<thansen@moscow.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'Vision2020' <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 22, 2013 3:11 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] gun violence debate<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv153854233"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br>One thing I can always count on on this list: the free psychotherapy. <br><br>It's *a* reason to own a gun. I can't help it if you guys blow it up into something it isn't. Home protection. It's not a niche concept. I would go as far as to say that lots of other people who own weapons employ one for that purpose.<br><br>Tom asked me a couple of questions. Thinking naively that he actually wanted to discuss the issue, I did some research and answered him honestly. All I got was his patented "cut one line out of my post out of context and fling dung at it" response, followed by a bunch of people jeering me for daring to have a difference of opinion. I don't know why I bother.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv153854233WordSection1"><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Hi Gary,</span></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Nobody in their right mind (who knows you personally) would think of you in terms of being a coward. I don’t think I missed the post wherein you defend firearm ownership because you are quaking in your boots and live in fear that somehow (a breakin ??? a beserker???? A lunatic on the loose????) is a threat to you. I’m not saying that the one in a jillion chance couldn’t happen, but if it did I have a certain degree of confidence
that you are not now, nor have you ever been all hat and no cattle. And, I can’t imagine you being concerned that your weapons match those of the local police department, the Idaho national guard, and the USMC. Some folks on this list apparently suffer from gun envy and that’s a disease that probably takes a whole of therapy to sort out. I don’t think that’s something you’ll be needing to spend money on.</span></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Rose</span></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div
class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Crabtree<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 22, 2013 1:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tom Hansen<br><b>Cc:</b> Vision2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] gun violence debate</span></div></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">Speaking strictly for myself and in no way wanting to put words in the mouth of Mr. Rumelhart, I find it very mildly vexing to be framed as a "coward" for being a hunter, collector, and general firearms enthusiast. The use of that term can hardly be seen as anything other than insulting and those who do or wildly applaud its use are
clearly not looking for reasoned discussion on the topic.</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">g</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:</div><div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">Please share with us, Mr. Rumelhart -</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">What exactly was said that makes you feel so offended?</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">We really would like to know, ok?</div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">Seeya round town, Moscow, because . .
.</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">http://www.MoscowCares.com</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">Tom Hansen</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">Moscow, Idaho</div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">"<span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">There's room at the top they are telling you still </span></div></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill <br>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">- John
Lennon</div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><br>On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">My apologies for having a differing view on this topic and for discussing that viewpoint on a public mailing list.<br><br>Jesus.<br><br>Paul</div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div><div><div style="text-align: center;" class="yiv153854233MsoNormal" align="center"><span><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr"
contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div></span></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Sam Scripter <<a href="mailto:MoscowSam@charter.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:MoscowSam@charter.net">MoscowSam@charter.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> Vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> "<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 22, 2013 11:48 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] gun violence debate</span></div></div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div><div
class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">WOW,WOW and WOW!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">AMEN, AMEN, and AMEN!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Thank you, Roger.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Sam S</span></div></div><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal">Via InoMail and Galaxy Note GT-N7000</div></div><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><br><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>"<a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a>>
wrote:</div><div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 5pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 1.2pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Ok, now I tire of this gun debate. A hammer is not any near as deadly as a semi-automatic weapon. Sifting through the Second Amendment for a hint of a right to possess all manner of weaponry is ridiculous and frightening. God did not give us the Second amendment, nor did God design and give us guns. Gun manufacturers give us guns. And they want us to buy more guns. Yes, a gun in every drawer and a chicken in every pot. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt;">People who want to own guns for defense live in fear. From whence does this fear originate?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From other people with guns!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">We have a gun violence problem the U.S.. no one can deny that. The solution I often hear is to own more guns.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">This creates more fear and a need for more, and more deadly guns to defend ourselves.
Kind of like a national internal arms race. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">People who are afraid to live in a civil society without arming themselves with weapons of mass destruction are cowards.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I am sorry to be so blunt, but I, and a vast majority of my fellow citizens, want to demonstrate the courage needed to deal with the violence in society in a logical, civil manner. Let's engage this discussion now. Enough children and citizens have died. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv153854233MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div
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