<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>@Gary,<br><br></div>Cultmaster Wilson said that <font size="4"><b>All</b></font> arguments used to support gay marriage can be used to support polygamy. That's false. There are many that support same gender marriage who argue that marriage is defined as union between two persons, just as Wilson and his ilk define marriage as a union between a man and a women. Both these definitions commit the fallacy of persuasive definition [Google].<br>
<br></div>That's why I suggested Googling the history of marriage. Before the advent of monogamous marriage there were many kinds of relationships between persons that served the same purpose as marriage does today, and few of those were monogamous. Perhaps Wilson like he is ignorant of modern biblical scholarship, he is also ignorant of the elementary findings of anthropology.<br>
<br></div>Unlike the discussion going on here about polygamy, Wilson simply compares gay marriage to polygamy as a scare tactic which he reckons will appeal to the dwindling numbers that hold a similar worldview to his own -- got to keep that cash machine working. Besides the cash flow, its all about adhering to his interpretation of the ancient texts he is hawking, and not about the economic, social, population effects, fairness, and stability, benefits of same gender marriage.<br>
<br></div>@others,<br><br></div>This discussion has evolved and tacitly assumed that people marry out of romantic love and/or the desire for children. In reality people marry for many reasons which may have little or nothing to do with love or children. We do not deny <span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><font size="4"><b>consenting adult</b></font></span> men and women the right to do this, why should we deny the same right to consenting same gender adults, or more than just two consenting adults?<br>
<br></div>However, arguing for the right of polygamy is not necessarily endorsing that it occur without consideration. Relationships are complicated; marriage ought not be something entered into without careful thought and some education/skill acquistion about conduct that can raise the probability of a happier union.<br>
<br></div>Sunil is correct that men may enter polygamous marriages because they want more than one woman. There are relationships where women do the same. However, there are other reasons for entering polygamous or polyandrous marriages such as the feeling of belonging/community, sharing responsibilities/duties/chores, economic security, etc.<br>
<br></div>Googling polygamy and polyandry and reading the different points of view and experiences might be helpful to the open minded. For Wilson and his tightly tethered sheep (tethered to him and/or the ancient texts he hawks) knowledge of reality is to be shunned and denigrated if it conflicts with their rationally unsupportable delusions. <br>
<br></div>w.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Kenneth Marcy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com" target="_blank">kmmos1@frontier.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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The only reason it's being discussed is because he said it. I
don't think any polygamists are using gay marriage to advance
their own cause.<br>
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Anyone here know anyone connected to polygamy?</div>
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No. However, the polygamist group in British Columbia has been
known to do business in northern Idaho, so they're not all that far
away.<div class="im"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">As a kid in Malaysia I went to school with three
kids whose dad I believe had four wives. There were at least
two. <br>
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I don't think polygamy usually has anything to do with three (or
I suppose more) people being in love. It usually has to do with
a husband wanting to have more than one wife.<br>
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Probably true, and probably less than optimally attractive for all
of the participants in such arrangements, especially if the children
are considered.<br>
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Canadian courts have been unenthusiastic about polygamy in Canada.
Here is a New York Times article that followed a Canadian court
decision a year ago November:<br>
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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/24/world/americas/british-columbia-court-upholds-canadas-polygamy-ban.html?_r=0" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/24/world/americas/british-columbia-court-upholds-canadas-polygamy-ban.html?_r=0</a>
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Ken<br>
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