<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good to know that an idiot like you doesn't believe in the first amendment either.<div><br></div><div>And as is typical of you, not just with me, but with others on the Vis, rather than challenge the facts of the case you make snide personal remarks.</div><div><br></div><div>Oh I forgot "Moscow Cares', well for me, don't bother, you don't "care" about anything but yourself.</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>Mr. Price -</div><div><br></div><div>With the exception of firing at the pistol range, every time an LAPD officer pulls the trigger of his/her service weapon (s)he must justify it. If a civilian is injured or killed by an on-duty police officer, that officer goes before a shooting board. Even if the firing of his/her weapon is justified, permanent entries are made in that officer's record.</div><div><br></div><div>In the 36 years my father served with the LAPD, he only fired his service revolver ONCE back in '63 (or was it '64). A record of that instance reminded in his record until he retired in '85</div><div><br></div><div>There is, obviously, considerably more to this incident than what the media tells us.</div><div><br></div><div>FCK, Mr. Price. The only thing missing is "U"!!!</div><div><br><div>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares"</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com/">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div></div><div><br>On Feb 8, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Wayne Price <<a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; ">I wonder if the LAPD officers who gunned down a 71 year old hispanic woman and her 47 year old daughter will be charged with attempted murder?</span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica">Notice that immediately the Chief of the LAPD said it was a case of mistaken identity!</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica">Lets see: 2 petite hispanic women vs 1 large black man is a mistake? A blue pick up truck vs a gray pick up truck with a ski rack is a mistake?<br></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica"><br></font><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: 'Ubuntu Condensed', georgia, 'time new roman', serif; font-size: 42px; font-weight: bold; letter-spacing: -1px; "><br>Newspaper carrier, 71, shot by LAPD in manhunt had 'no warning'</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div class="rs_skip" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "><div class="nimp" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 0px; margin-bottom: 25px; border-top-width: 0px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); "><div id="vtart_top" class="flright" style="float: right; margin-top: 20px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="nowrap voteupbiggreen" style="white-space: nowrap; "><a class="votetxt" id="" href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/343069" title="Like this article" style="color: white !important; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; padding-top: 3px; padding-right: 20px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 20px; font-size: 11px; text-decoration: none; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: transparent; border-right-color: transparent; border-bottom-color: transparent; border-left-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; text-transform: uppercase; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(114, 220, 51); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">LI</a></span></div></div></div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; ">By <a class="userlink" href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/user/659988" pg="5" ach="" achh="" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); text-decoration: underline !important; ">Yukio Strachan</a></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; "><a href="http://maps.google.com/?q=Torrance%2C+CA%2C+United+States&z=4" target="_blank" title="Torrance, CA, United States" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 187); ">Torrance</a> - A 71-year-old woman delivering newspapers with her daughter who were "accidentally" shot by LAPD searching for triple murder fugitive Christopher Dorner Thursday said they had no warning beforehand, the victims’ attorney told local media.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#666666"> </font></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">Attorney Glen T. Jonas said Maggie Carranza, 47, and her mother, 71-year-old Emma Hernandez, were delivering Los Angeles Times newspapers around 5:15 a.m. in Torrance when the officers riddled the women's blue pickup with bullets.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div class="body" style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; color: black; white-space: normal; "><div style="padding-bottom: 15px; "></div>“There was no warning. There were no orders. No commands. Just gunshots,” Jonas said.</div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">A patrol unit was reportedly assigned to protect the home of a high-ranking LAPD officer during the manhunt for 33-year-old Dorner, who is believed to have killed a Riverside cop Thursday and an Irvine couple Sunday.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div class="body" style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; color: black; white-space: normal; "><div style="padding-bottom: 15px; "></div>In a news conference, Police Chief Charlie Beck said the officers thought the women’s royal blue Toyota Tacoma matched the description of Dorner’s gray Nissan Titan with ski rack.</div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">Jonas said the women's vehicle was "the wrong color and the wrong model" compared to Dorner's.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">"The problem with the situation is it looked like the police had the goal of administering street justice and in so doing, didn't take the time to notice that these two older, small Latina women don't look like a large black man," Jonas said, correcting earlier news reports that the women were Asian.</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">Dorner is black, 6 feet tall and weighs 270 pounds.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">"Tragically, we believe this is a case of mistaken identity," Charlie Beck, chief of the Los Angeles Police Department, told reporters earlier Thursday about the shooting.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">Jonas <a href="http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/07/2-innocent-women-shot-during-manhunt-for-ex-cop-chris-dorner-had-no-warning/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 187); ">told</a> CBS Los Angeles that he's not buying it.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div class="body" style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; color: black; white-space: normal; "><div style="padding-bottom: 15px; "></div></div></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">“The vehicle is a different color. The license plate doesn’t match. There’s nothing there for you to start shooting people. And even if they had the person in question… Mr. Dorner…you still have to give them an opportunity to get out. You can’t just start administering street justice,” said Jonas.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; "><em>The Los Angeles Times</em> <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/manhunt-newspaper-carrier-icu-shot-by-police.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 187); ">reported</a> Thursday night that 71-year-old Hernandez, who was shot twice in the back, is in intensive care.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">CBS added Hernandez was listed in good condition at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">Her daughter, Carranza, who was also hit, according to attorney Jonas, received stitches to a finger.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">"We trust that the LAPD will step up and do the right thing and acknowledge that what they did was unacceptable and we'll deal with it," Jonas said<br>.</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><span><br><br><br></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>=======================================================</span><br><span> List services made available by First Step Internet,</span><br><span> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.</span><br><span> <a href="http://www.fsr.net/">http://www.fsr.net</a></span><br><span> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a></span><br><span>=======================================================</span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>