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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>You keep making apples to oranges
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>In a effort to deter that which is undesirable
</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">(yelling fire in a crowded movie theater;
libel; slander; child pornography) </FONT><FONT face=Calibri>we punish the
occurrences. We do not try to take away the means by banning magazines, (six
words or greater) newspapers, internet, photography, or surgical removal
of the tongue.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com
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href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=godshatter@yahoo.com
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Gun Talk</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=auto>Paul wrote: How is my interpretation of the Second Amendment in
any way "radical"? "Radical?" Really? "...the right of the
people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." How is a government
ban on a complete class of guns (based almost solely on how military they look)
not an infringement of my right to keep and bear arms? Doesn't it stop me
from buying an AR15, for example, not based on market forces or recalls based on
safety or popularity, but because the government told me I can't own one?
Doesn't that infringe on my right to keep and bear arms, if only by restricting
what I can keep and bear? I don't see how this is "radical".<BR><BR>
<DIV>All rights may be infringed. Sorry. I don't want to try to figure out the
founding fathers meant -- likely, the right to ban what we call "arms" cannot be
infringed, which is reasonable -- but the idea that there are NO restrictions on
(what we now think of as) gun sales is crazy. You can restrict speech so you
sure as heck can restrict gun sales. Any view that says that we can do X under
ANY circumstances provided X is listed in the Bill of Rights is a radical
view.<BR><BR>Show me ONE other right that you think "shall not be infringed" in
the way that you supposed gun rights shall not be infringed? Again, it is
confusing. I would argue that circumstances in which your speech or expression
may be restricted (yelling fire in a crowded movie theater; libel; slander;
child pornography) is precisely the point at which your rights end. Again, I
have a hard time saying the government is violating your right to free
expression because it prohibits you from slandering Gary Crabtree. You NEVER had
that "right." You have the right to speech freely ... up to a point. That is
just how rights work. <BR><BR>But of course I've already made this
point!<BR></DIV></DIV>
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