<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>1/ ban those guns too maybe</div><div><br></div><div>2/ and the drones. </div><div><br>On Feb 2, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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You know, I could get behind these attempts to portray people who
are against the assault weapons ban as sociopaths or
schizophrenics, if it weren't for the following things:<br>
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1. If the proponents of these bans weren't so disingenuous with
their wording. "Assault weapon" is a look-and-feel definition,
not a usage-based one. A Ruger Mini 14 is just as deadly in a
spree shooting as an AR15, but it's not considered an "assault
weapon" because it doesn't look enough like a movie prop. I've
both made this kind of comment on this list before and have seen
it made here many times. I haven't seen anyone answer it. What
is the use of banning a weapon based on how military it looks?
Why ban guns with barrel shrouds? All they do is keep you from
burning yourself on the barrel. Or bayonet mounts? Are we really
worried about the latest rash of gun stabbings? My conclusion:
it's only useful politically.<br>
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2. If they weren't so intent to ride the "think of the children"
wave. If the deaths of school children should be driving our
behaviors, then how about we overhaul the drone program? Lots of
children are dying every day via drones, all OK'd by our sitting
President. I posted an article about that a few days ago, I
think. So why is the outrage over Newtown driving the assault
weapons ban but there is no outrage over drone-killings? The only
differences I can see are that the Newtown angle has been in the
news non-stop while there is very little reporting on personally
sanctioned assassinations by our President and that the children
killed by drones are brown and not white. "Foreign" and not
"domestic", if that makes you sleep better. Also, every new
gun-related incident gets center stage attention, as if these
kinds of tragedies haven't been happening all the time. Suddenly,
a switch is thrown and we're all outraged about them.<br>
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Now, I can get behind better background checks. I'd like to see
more focus on how we can keep guns out of the hands of the
mentally ill as well, as long as we're careful about people's
rights so a random Joe can't be suddenly labeled "mentally ill"
because he or she owns an AR15 or for some other trumped up
reason. Better databases covering gun sales would also make
sense, though I can understand the concerns that if they know
about your guns they can also come take them away. More training
on gun handling and safety would also not go amiss.<br>
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But this push to ban "assault weapons" is blatant political
theater. The magazine size restrictions are idiotic, as well. It
takes a second to swap a magazine if you've practiced it a few
times. Pick up the magazine, release the current one and let it
drop, shove the new one home. <br>
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tl;dr version: gun control is currently all about political
expediency when it should be all about actual effectiveness.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 02/02/2013 09:26 AM, Moscow Cares wrote:<br>
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