<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>You've got to be kidding, Jeff. Should I track down down some of the insulting comments you've made? Joe<br><br>On Jan 25, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Jeff Harkins <<a href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com">jeffh@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<td>Re: [Vision2020] THE VIZ - Is It time for a reset ??????</td>
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<td>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:46:01 -0800</td>
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<td>Jeff Harkins <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com"><jeffh@moscow.com></a></td>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I could not disagree with you more -
individuals are entitled to respect. Certainly one is entitled
to criticize a public officials positions on issues - it is
inappropriate to launch personal attacks.<br>
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On 1/25/2013 10:42 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Mr. Harkins . . .</div>
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<div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The city
council's public lives (such as when they are in session)
are public domain. As such, they should expect, or at least
anticipate, some degree of ridicule (as long as it is clean)
from those who strongly disagree with them.</span></div>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Seeya round
town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">"Moscow Cares"</div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"<span style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77,
128, 180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are
telling you still</span><span style="font-size: medium;
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-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77,
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<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as
you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium;
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-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
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180, 0.230469); ">
<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the
hill."</span></div>
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0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175,
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0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175,
192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color:
rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br>
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On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Jeff Harkins <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com">jeffh@moscow.com</a>>
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Over the past several years, the vitriolic nature of the
dialogue posted to Vision2020 has become increasingly
hostile and in many instances, highly personal.<br>
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It is one thing to have a robust conversation, even a
debate, on the pressing issues confronting Moscow and Latah
County. That is one of the prime objectives of Vision2020.
It is quite another thing when the dialogue belittles,
harasses, threatens, demeans and/or attacks those who
express themselves. Such actions do little to advance the
role and mission of Vision2020.<br>
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Perhaps a review of the Vision2020 Mission Statement will
help to remind or raise awareness of the intended purpose of
this website - the mission statement is appended below. <br>
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I am reasonably confident that the intent of First Step
Internet in providing "free" hosting for the site was not to
endorse or condone personal attacks - chiding, slurring,
harassment and threats. I know that as a customer of FSI, I
am not interested in helping to fund a site that allows
unfettered personal attacks on individuals. The recent
"satire" posting demeaning the words of Councilman Wayne
Krauss is a prime example of poor and unwarranted behavior.
I know that Councilman Krauss would engage in a spirited
conversation on most topics. So, if one has an issue with
the Councilman, engage him in a conversation. To mock his
view is a discredit to our community - it should stop.<br>
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I can only wonder what visitors from other communities think
about the despicable nature of some of the posts. Is that
the sort of impression we want to promote to visitors?<br>
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Now, it is true that not everyone posting to the site is
guilty of poor behavior - but those who frequent the site
know that there are numerous individuals who do their best
to mock, harass and denigrate individuals. <br>
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Many will argue that the site should be self policing; the
"adult participants" should work to discourage poor
behavior. But that doesn't seem to be very effective. <br>
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To be candid, if the Vision 2020 posters can't find topics
more worthy than mocking an elected official's comments
about "moral decline" it is time to shut the blog site
down. There is little to be gained by allowing individuals
to denigrate our community and its residents by lending
credibility to the small-minded mean and nasty comments of
the few. <br>
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Perhaps the VIZ has served its purpose and its usefulness.
Or, perhaps there should be some "rules" or "protocols" for
the Vision2020 site. Perhaps the site should be
restructured - charge small fee, get a new site, establish
rules and protocols. <br>
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Perhaps those that wish to continue poor behavior and
actions that would denigrate selected individuals should
acquire their own blog site and post whatever they wish.<br>
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If the VIZ is to continue, its patrons should consider a
refocus on the stated goals and objectives of the VIZ.<br>
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Finally, according to the Vision2020 website:<br>
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bylaws, budget or membership requirements.
Its activities are coordinated by a <u>three-member
steering committee chosen annually by
consensus</u>.</td>
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By the way, who are the individuals currently serving on the
Steering Committee and when is the election for the
positions held?<br>
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<h3>Vision 2020 Mission Statement Adopted March 1995</h3>
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<li>To ensure that all parts of our community have an
opportunity to take part in visualizing and planning for
the community's future. <br>
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<li>To strengthen citizens' sense of community by
promoting awareness, ownership and investment in
Moscow's future. <br>
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<li>To foster cooperation among (and public involvement
with) the agencies and organizations that plan for and
make decisions about the future of Moscow and Latah
County. <br>
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<li>To raise awareness on the part of citizens and public
officials that: <br>
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<li>uncontrolled and unplanned growth may have
negative effects. <br>
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<li>short-term decisions have long-term consequences.
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<li>To inform ourselves about growth and development
issues. <br>
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<li>To have fun thinking critically and creatively.</li>
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