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<DIV>I went to a great blue-grass concert last night and heard Laurie Lewis sing
about the “past that is a lie.” Great concert, great song (forgot the
title), absolutely impeccably correct lyrics. I tend to go ballistic when some
idiot expounds on the solution to all our educational problems (including
shootings) would be to restore the morning prayer and bible reading. Kids,
myself included and probably you, too, used that time to settle in, pass notes,
check out what folks were wearing. But I do remember the day when
the 4th grade boy read about, “Jesus and his exposed wife, Mary, went down to
Bethlehem to be taxed.” And don’t forget, students MAY STILL PRAY in
school Teachers just can’t make them do it. </DIV>
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<DIV>Sue H. <BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=art.deco.studios@gmail.com
href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:22 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Wayne Krauss on Gun Violence and What is
Wrong inAmerica</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>In addition to the remarks of Saundra, it should be added that the society
that Krauss think once existed, never, in fact did.<BR><BR></DIV>See:
<I><SPAN id=btAsinTitle>The Way We Never Were: American Families And The
Nostalgia Trap</SPAN></I> by Stephanie Coontz.<BR></DIV><A
href="http://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465090974">http://www.amazon.com/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia/dp/0465090974</A><BR><BR></DIV>and
the chapter entitled "The Family" in<BR>
<H3><A
href="http://www.amazon.com/Legends-Cherished-Myths-American-History/dp/B000GG4Z2M/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359234895&sr=1-6&keywords=legends%2C+lies">Legends,
Lies, and Cherished Myths of American History</A> <SPAN>by <A
href="http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Shenkman/e/B000APN31I/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_6?qid=1359234895&sr=1-6">Richard
Shenkman</A></SPAN> <SPAN>(Jun 19, 1992)</SPAN> </H3>
<P>When anyone spouts the lack of religious beliefs and practices as the cause
of the current problems of society and the world, the facts go way out the
window -- they (the facts) are so inconvenient to an irrational discussion of
very complex problems. Facts, not fantasy, are needed to solve
problems. When the flood waters are rising, it is time to stop praying and
start repairing and sandbagging dikes else you are going to get your ass very
wet.</P>
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<P>w.<BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Saundra Lund <SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
was going to keep my mouth shut about this, but I certainly hope folks realize
that Krauss either is talking out of his rear or is utterly ignorant about the
history of school shootings in the US.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">An
inconvenient fact for Krauss & his ilk (ask Wayne Price for a definition)
is that there have been school shootings for as long as there has been a
United States of America. Even more inconvenient for Krauss is the fact
that the <B>vast majority</B> of those school shootings took place while
Krauss’ “God” (whatever that means) was still in the schools and in the
government (whatever he meant with that incoherent
rambling).<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
most charitable spin I can put on Krauss’ ignorance is that he’s nothing more
than a Johnny-Come-Lately to the issue of school shootings. More likely,
it seems to me, is that he’s done drunk the Kool-Aid of those with a vested
interest in smoke & mirrors. Given that he’s significantly older
than am I, perhaps his memory is just faulty and his “glory days-ing” of the
1950s, 1960s, and 1970s is a function of that faulty
memory.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
do, however, find it difficult to fathom that he sincerely doesn’t remember
Charles Whitman.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Here’s
the thing: the argument that reasonable people like me are making is
that given the <B>fact</B> that school shootings have been happening in
<B>America</B> for as long as there have been schools in America, the issue
isn’t one of some theocracy-based imaginary moral decline of our society and
its people, but rather it’s one of technological advances that have resulted
in semi-automatic guns and high capacity magazines. It’s the ability of
miscreants and/or those who are mentally ill to kill and injure lots of people
in minutes . . . in seconds. Factually, <B>that’s</B> been the
significant change, not that people are only recently wielding guns and
targeting schools.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And,
that’s a fact that Krauss et al choose to ignore.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
am beyond disappointed that people like Krauss choose to stick their heads in
the sand and be blinded by rhetoric rather than educated by facts. I
attended a forum some years back when Krauss (as a citizen and not a council
member) asked a thoughtful and intelligent question. Regrettably, any
critical thinking skills he once possessed seem to have left the
building.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Further,
if a council member chooses to lecture constituents, we-as-constituents have a
right to expect that the lecture at <B>least</B> be factually accurate rather
than flatly incorrect inflammatory rhetoric lifted straight from partisan echo
chambers.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And,
I’m nearly as disappointed that not a single soul on the Moscow City Council
bothered to correct Krauss’ ignorance. Whether or not I voted for a
particular Council member, I expect – no, I <B>demand -- </B>intelligent and
educated discussion, both of which were absent from Krauss’ “lecture” in that
Council meeting discussion.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Krauss
also preached about the way weapons and ammunition have been “flying off the
shelves” following Sandy Hook and subjected us to his lame grasping for causes
and explanations. Conspicuously absent from his musings is the
individualistic greed that’s infected American society and is used by some as
justification for treating others as “less than.” That same greedy
individualism that fails to recognize a huge component of this nation’s
greatness is that we as a society are far, far greater than the sum of our
individuals. That same selfish greed that seems to have filled far too
many with an unearned sense of entitlement such that they are willing to throw
all others, particularly those they disagree with, by the side of the road in
ruins. That same greed than is killing America’s compassion for other
Americans and for humanity as a whole.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Notably
absent from Krauss’ screed is another inconvenient fact: the vast
majority of those purchases he attributes to fear were by repeat buyers.
I personally know several people who were a part of that rush, and none of
them were first time “buyers.” The kind of standard response I received
was something like, “<wink, wink, nudge, nudge> Yeah, I bought because
maybe semi-autos & hi-cap mags are going to be banned. But, you know
me – any excuse for a new toy.” It was sometimes accompanied by comment
about the explanation being enough to satisfy a SO.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">To
me, that’s kind of significant. Does that explain all of the
purchases? Probably not.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">But,
I <B>do</B> think that people like Krauss need to start looking at their own
behavior and the role they play in completely irrational hysteria. It
is, IMHO, flatly irresponsible to fan the paranoid fear flames of the
reactionary right the way Krauss and so many of his fellow GOPers & TPers
have done <B>and</B> continue to do. Personally, I think it
counter-productive and inarguably immoral for elected officials to validate
ignorance, bias, and bigotry as Krauss did. But, it’s sooo much easier
to look at others rather than at one’s self, isn’t
it?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Krauss
also lamented “taking God out of the schools and God out of government.”
Does anyone have a clue as to what he meant? As a person of faith, I
certainly don’t. And, as a person who went to public schools in the
Bible belt in the 1960s and 1970s, I haven’t a clue.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Perhaps
it’s more of his inclination, facts be damned, to romanticize the past,
something it seems a certain segment of the population has always been
inclined to do as they age.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
certainly hate to think that Krauss believes that people of faith – children
or adults – check their God at <B>any</B> door. But, perhaps that’s what
he believes. If so, it makes me very sad that he has <B>so little
belief</B> in the faith of others.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Or,
perhaps he’s talking about himself . . . or people he knows. I think we
all know them – Sunday Christians. You know, like those good Christian
farmer men in Georgia who shot into the girls’ school in Gainesville when
school was in session . . . while they were drunk. Or, the good
Christian old fool who shot into the populated playground of St. Mary’s in New
York. Both of those instances, BTW, took place in the 1800s. And
on & on & on.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Or
maybe . . . just maybe . . . the answer to Krauss’ question is people
like himself who think the worst of educated and informed people with whom
they disagree. People who assume the faith of others is checked at the
door. People who refuse to accept that the faith of others is just as
strong as is their own and is a valid basis for
morality.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">People
who mistakenly think that God requires public recognition in schools and in
government.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">People
who think that “different” is less than.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Ignorant
old fools who think it’s men who solve problems.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In
any case, I found his comments sad, misguided, and wholly inappropriate.
No matter how much he may wish otherwise, this <B>is</B> the United States of
America. In addition to the Second Amendment, I encourage him to read –
actually read <B>and</B> understand – the Constitution of the United States of
America (and not the pocket annotated version so popular in some circles) and
pay particular attention the <B>First Amendment.</B><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">That
said, if Krauss wants a theocracy, there are plenty of places in the world he
can find that, but the USA <B>isn’t</B> one of them, nor should it be one of
them because of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Somehow,
I don’t think Krauss would be any happier in a theocracy than he is
here.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Saundra
Lund<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Moscow,
ID<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If
you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be
happy, practice compassion.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">~
The Dalai Lama<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A> [<A
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</B>Tom Hansen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:48 PM</SPAN></P>
<DIV class=im><BR><B>To:</B> Moscow Vision 2020<BR><B>Cc:</B> Jeanne McHale;
Fritz Knorr; Lois<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=im><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Wayne Krauss on Gun Violence and
What is Wrong in America<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Moscow City Council session (January 22,
2013)<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . .
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<P class=MsoNormal>"Moscow Cares"<U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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