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On 1/25/2013 11:17 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
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<div>Mr. Harkins -</div>
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<div>Care to join a group of us in creating a petition to have Fox
News removed from public airwaves?</div>
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<div>If what I posted regarding Councilman Krauss displeases you,
you are going to go absolutely ballistic when you experience
what I am organizing for Wally (Steed) next election day.</div>
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<div>Stay tuned . . .<br>
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<div>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
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<div>"Moscow Cares"</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"<span style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are telling
you still</span><span style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469); "> </span></div>
<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile as you
kill </span><br style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469); ">
<span style="font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div>
<div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469);"><br>
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<div><font size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969);
-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br>
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On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jeff Harkins <<a
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<td>Re: [Vision2020] THE VIZ - Is It time for a reset
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I could not disagree with you
more - individuals are entitled to respect. Certainly one
is entitled to criticize a public officials positions on
issues - it is inappropriate to launch personal attacks.<br>
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On 1/25/2013 10:42 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Mr. Harkins
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<div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The city
council's public lives (such as when they are in
session) are public domain. As such, they should
expect, or at least anticipate, some degree of
ridicule (as long as it is clean) from those who
strongly disagree with them.</span></div>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Seeya
round town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">"Moscow
Cares"</div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"<span style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469); ">There's room at the top they are
telling you still</span><span style="font-size:
medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26,
26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color:
rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128,
180, 0.230469); "> </span></div>
<span style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175,
192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); ">But first you must learn how to smile
as you kill </span><br style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175,
192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); ">
<span style="font-size: medium;
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175,
192, 227, 0.230469);
-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); ">If you want to be like the folks on the
hill."</span></div>
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size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969);
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size="3"><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
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-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192,
227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color:
rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">- John Lennon<br>
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On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Jeff Harkins <<a
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Over the past several years, the vitriolic nature of
the dialogue posted to Vision2020 has become
increasingly hostile and in many instances, highly
personal.<br>
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It is one thing to have a robust conversation, even a
debate, on the pressing issues confronting Moscow and
Latah County. That is one of the prime objectives of
Vision2020. It is quite another thing when the
dialogue belittles, harasses, threatens, demeans
and/or attacks those who express themselves. Such
actions do little to advance the role and mission of
Vision2020.<br>
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Perhaps a review of the Vision2020 Mission Statement
will help to remind or raise awareness of the intended
purpose of this website - the mission statement is
appended below. <br>
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I am reasonably confident that the intent of First
Step Internet in providing "free" hosting for the site
was not to endorse or condone personal attacks -
chiding, slurring, harassment and threats. I know
that as a customer of FSI, I am not interested in
helping to fund a site that allows unfettered personal
attacks on individuals. The recent "satire" posting
demeaning the words of Councilman Wayne Krauss is a
prime example of poor and unwarranted behavior. I
know that Councilman Krauss would engage in a spirited
conversation on most topics. So, if one has an issue
with the Councilman, engage him in a conversation. To
mock his view is a discredit to our community - it
should stop.<br>
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I can only wonder what visitors from other communities
think about the despicable nature of some of the
posts. Is that the sort of impression we want to
promote to visitors?<br>
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Now, it is true that not everyone posting to the site
is guilty of poor behavior - but those who frequent
the site know that there are numerous individuals who
do their best to mock, harass and denigrate
individuals. <br>
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Many will argue that the site should be self policing;
the "adult participants" should work to discourage
poor behavior. But that doesn't seem to be very
effective. <br>
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To be candid, if the Vision 2020 posters can't find
topics more worthy than mocking an elected official's
comments about "moral decline" it is time to shut the
blog site down. There is little to be gained by
allowing individuals to denigrate our community and
its residents by lending credibility to the
small-minded mean and nasty comments of the few. <br>
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Perhaps the VIZ has served its purpose and its
usefulness. Or, perhaps there should be some "rules"
or "protocols" for the Vision2020 site. Perhaps the
site should be restructured - charge small fee, get a
new site, establish rules and protocols. <br>
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Perhaps those that wish to continue poor behavior and
actions that would denigrate selected individuals
should acquire their own blog site and post whatever
they wish.<br>
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If the VIZ is to continue, its patrons should consider
a refocus on the stated goals and objectives of the
VIZ.<br>
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Finally, according to the Vision2020 website:<br>
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<td colspan="2" width="400">Vision 2020
has no bylaws, budget or membership
requirements. Its activities are
coordinated by a <u>three-member
steering committee chosen annually
by consensus</u>.</td>
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By the way, who are the individuals currently serving
on the Steering Committee and when is the election for
the positions held?<br>
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<h3>Vision 2020 Mission Statement Adopted March 1995</h3>
<ol>
<li>To ensure that all parts of our community have
an opportunity to take part in visualizing and
planning for the community's future. <br>
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</li>
<li>To strengthen citizens' sense of community by
promoting awareness, ownership and investment in
Moscow's future. <br>
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</li>
<li>To foster cooperation among (and public
involvement with) the agencies and organizations
that plan for and make decisions about the future
of Moscow and Latah County. <br>
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</li>
<li>To raise awareness on the part of citizens and
public officials that: <br>
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<li>uncontrolled and unplanned growth may have
negative effects. <br>
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</li>
<li>short-term decisions have long-term
consequences. </li>
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<li>To inform ourselves about growth and development
issues. <br>
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</li>
<li>To have fun thinking critically and creatively.</li>
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