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<div class="im"><div>  </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size:medium">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:medium">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span><br>
</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "<a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><span>Agreed. Not a hate group per se. And I am certain that this sort of cloister would only attract the finest racially/culturally tolerant folks.</span></div>
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<br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:50:12 -0800<br>From: Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BAY155-W3857EE012EC8583D65B4A6BD2E0@phx.gbl" target="_blank">BAY155-W3857EE012EC8583D65B4A6BD2E0@phx.gbl</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br><br>Darrell,<br>
<br>I agree, though I have to add that someone posted about them last month; I think it was Tom.<br><br>Sunil<br><br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:28:26 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br>From: <a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a><br>
<br><br>I am the original poster of this topic.  I never called it a hate group.  I called them survivalists.  I think
 Roger Hayes changed the subject to a hate tagline.  What say you, Roger?<br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br><br><br><br><br>I'm with Roger on this. Maybe they're complete nut jobs, but I don't know that they're a hate group. <br><br>What is the evidence behind that claim?<br><br>Sunil<br><br>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:36:50 +0100<br>
<br>To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a><br>From: <a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a><br>
<br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br><br>
<br>I do not know anything about this group, but how does anyone know that they are a hate group?  A little bit wako probably, but not necessarily a hate group.Roger<br><br><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br>
From: "Tom Hansen" <br><br>To: "Darrell Keim" <br>Date: 01/13/13 23:12:16<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>How's this for "freedom""<br><br><br><br><br><br>My father was a POW in Stalag Luft IIIA during the last year and a half of WW2.  I am convinced that he experienced less isolation than the freedom-loving residents of the Citadel.<br>
<br>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .<br><br><br><br>"Moscow Cares"<br><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a><br>  <br><br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br>
<br>"There's room at the
 top they are telling you still  <br>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill." <br><br><br><br>- John Lennon<br>   <br><br><br>On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br><br> <br>Goodie.  So it will be like Bo Gritz "Almost Heaven" near Kamiah.  Wonderful.<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br><br> The Southern Poverty Law Center has dismissed this "group" as a couple of guys with a computer who are trying to drum up a following and bilk those who take the bait of cash.<br><br><br><br>  <br><br>From: "<a href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-request@moscow.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-request@moscow.com</a>><br>
<br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:47 AM<br>Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 79, Issue 133<br> <br><br>Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<br>
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<br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br>  1. Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho (Darrell Keim)<br>  2. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho (Tom Hansen)<br><br>  3. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho<br>
      (Joe Campbell)<br>  4. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho<br>      (Darrell Keim)<br>  5. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho<br><br>      (Darrell
 Keim)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:19:39 -0800<br>From: Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in<br><br>    Idaho<br>Message-ID:<br>    <CAE4+uhyf2pmNJ8Pq2txzC7j1CAenA=A33vJ=<a href="mailto:GdT7a_MD6Mpahw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">GdT7a_MD6Mpahw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>
<br><br>They call themselves
 The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas Jefferson's<br>"Rightful Liberty."<br><br><a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br><br><br>Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>
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    Idaho<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:046F5134-11B4-4992-907C-37F01163DB22@moscow.com" target="_blank">046F5134-11B4-4992-907C-37F01163DB22@moscow.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>
<br>Ya mean this one?<br><br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr</a><br><br>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .<br><br><br>"Moscow Cares"<br><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a><br>
 <br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br>"There's room at the top they are telling you still<br><br>But first you must learn how to smile as you
 kill<br>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<br><br>- John Lennon<br><br><br>On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br><br>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>> <br>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br>
<br>> <br>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br>> <br>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>><br>> =======================================================<br>
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To: Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in<br>
    Idaho<br>Message-ID:<br>    <CA+<a href="mailto:fbP8xAkxc6TwE1Cthe0FJk6Uo8Zsefv7Z3sPzDkC2bk48mpA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">fbP8xAkxc6TwE1Cthe0FJk6Uo8Zsefv7Z3sPzDkC2bk48mpA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
<br>>From the link below: "The job opportunities and array of industries that<br>will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire<br><br>county to work thereby eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing<br>
double-digit poverty level to zero." Pretty bold set of claims!<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim
 <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>
> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>><br>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas<br><br>> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br>><br>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br>
><br>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br><br>><br>><br>> =======================================================<br>>  List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>
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    Idaho<br>Message-ID:<br>    <CAE4+uhztjR8B9rX0WsxDOhVnEgn0pCtRLy48ZCe+TX+=0o+<a href="mailto:ERA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">ERA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>
<br>Yep-That's the one!  Always good to have our little slice of heaven in the<br>national media, right?<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br><br>> Ya mean this one?<br>><br>> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr</a><br>><br>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .<br>><br>> "Moscow Cares"<br>
<br>> <a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a><br>><br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>><br>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still<br>
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill<br><br>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<br>><br>> - John Lennon<br>><br>><br>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>><br>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>><br>
<br>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing
 Thomas<br>> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br>><br>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br><br>><br>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>
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<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Agreed.  And they'll start with a firearms factory.<br><br>Have you read their Patriot Agreement?  They sure do think weapons<br>proficiency is patriotic!<br>
<br>Whole thing reads wacky to me.  Makes me want to laugh, ala The Colbert<br>Report Tom linked.  But, so did the Aryan Nations before they actually went<br>ahead and set-up a compound...<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
<br><br>> From the link below: "The job opportunities and array of industries that<br>> will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire<br>> county to work thereby
 eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing<br><br>> double-digit poverty level to zero." Pretty bold set of claims!<br>><br>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>><br>>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>>> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>>> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>
<br>>><br>>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas<br>>> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br>
<br>>><br>>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>>><br>>><br>>>
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