<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Agreed. Not a hate group per se. And I am certain that this sort of cloister would only attract the finest racially/culturally tolerant folks.</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "vision2020-request@moscow.com" <vision2020-request@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> vision2020@moscow.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January
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edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Another hate group (Sunil Ramalingam)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:50:12 -0800<br>From: Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BAY155-W3857EE012EC8583D65B4A6BD2E0@phx.gbl"
ymailto="mailto:BAY155-W3857EE012EC8583D65B4A6BD2E0@phx.gbl">BAY155-W3857EE012EC8583D65B4A6BD2E0@phx.gbl</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br><br>Darrell,<br><br>I agree, though I have to add that someone posted about them last month; I think it was Tom.<br><br>Sunil<br><br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:28:26 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br>From: <a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a><br><br><br>I am the original poster of this topic. I never called it a hate group. I called them survivalists. I think
Roger Hayes changed the subject to a hate tagline. What say you, Roger?<br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br><br><br><br>I'm with Roger on this. Maybe they're complete nut jobs, but I don't know that they're a hate group. <br><br>What is the evidence behind that claim?<br><br>Sunil<br><br>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:36:50 +0100<br><br>To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a><br>From: <a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a><br><br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com"
ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br><br><br>I do not know anything about this group, but how does anyone know that they are a hate group? A little bit wako probably, but not necessarily a hate group.Roger<br><br><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another hate group<br>From: "Tom Hansen" <br><br>To: "Darrell Keim" <br>Date: 01/13/13 23:12:16<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>How's this for "freedom""<br><br><br><br><br><br>My father was a POW in Stalag Luft IIIA during the last year and a half of WW2. I am convinced that he experienced less isolation than the freedom-loving residents of the Citadel.<br><br>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .<br><br><br><br>"Moscow Cares"<br><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a><br> <br><br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br><br>"There's room at the
top they are telling you still <br>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill." <br><br><br><br>- John Lennon<br> <br><br><br>On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br> <br>Goodie. So it will be like Bo Gritz "Almost Heaven" near Kamiah. Wonderful.<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br> The Southern Poverty Law Center has dismissed this "group" as a couple of guys with a computer who are trying to drum up a following and bilk those who take the bait of cash.<br><br><br><br> <br><br>From: "<a href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com"
ymailto="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com">vision2020-request@moscow.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com">vision2020-request@moscow.com</a>><br><br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:47 AM<br>Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 79, Issue 133<br> <br><br>Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><br> <a href="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com"
ymailto="mailto:vision2020-request@moscow.com">vision2020-request@moscow.com</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><br> <a href="mailto:vision2020-owner@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-owner@moscow.com">vision2020-owner@moscow.com</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br><br>than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho (Darrell Keim)<br> 2. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho (Tom Hansen)<br><br> 3. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho<br> (Joe Campbell)<br> 4. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho<br> (Darrell Keim)<br> 5. Re: Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in Idaho<br><br> (Darrell
Keim)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:19:39 -0800<br>From: Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br><br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in<br><br> Idaho<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAE4+uhyf2pmNJ8Pq2txzC7j1CAenA=A33vJ=<a href="mailto:GdT7a_MD6Mpahw@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:GdT7a_MD6Mpahw@mail.gmail.com">GdT7a_MD6Mpahw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br><br><br>They call themselves
The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas Jefferson's<br>"Rightful Liberty."<br><br><a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br><br><br>Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20130113/e7b4a7cf/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20130113/e7b4a7cf/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:25:51 -0800<br>From: Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br><br>To: Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in<br> Idaho<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:046F5134-11B4-4992-907C-37F01163DB22@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:046F5134-11B4-4992-907C-37F01163DB22@moscow.com">046F5134-11B4-4992-907C-37F01163DB22@moscow.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Ya mean this one?<br><br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr</a><br><br>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .<br><br><br>"Moscow Cares"<br><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a><br> <br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br>"There's room at the top they are telling you still<br><br>But first you must learn how to smile as you
kill<br>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<br><br>- John Lennon<br><br><br>On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>> <br>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br><br>> <br>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br>> <br>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>><br>> =======================================================<br><br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>>
<a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br>> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>> =======================================================<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20130113/c0a77a9a/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20130113/c0a77a9a/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:31:48 -0800<br>From: Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br><br>To: Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in<br> Idaho<br>Message-ID:<br> <CA+<a href="mailto:fbP8xAkxc6TwE1Cthe0FJk6Uo8Zsefv7Z3sPzDkC2bk48mpA@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:fbP8xAkxc6TwE1Cthe0FJk6Uo8Zsefv7Z3sPzDkC2bk48mpA@mail.gmail.com">fbP8xAkxc6TwE1Cthe0FJk6Uo8Zsefv7Z3sPzDkC2bk48mpA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>>From the link below: "The job opportunities and array of industries that<br>will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire<br><br>county to work thereby eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing<br>double-digit poverty level to zero." Pretty bold set of claims!<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim
<<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>><br>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas<br><br>> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br>><br>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br>><br>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br><br>><br>><br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> <a href="http://www.fsr.net/"
target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br><br>> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> =======================================================<br><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20130113/725688df/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20130113/725688df/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:42:11 -0800<br>From: Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br><br>To: Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh Goodie: Another Survivalist Community in<br> Idaho<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAE4+uhztjR8B9rX0WsxDOhVnEgn0pCtRLy48ZCe+TX+=0o+<a href="mailto:ERA@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:ERA@mail.gmail.com">ERA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Yep-That's the one! Always good to have our little slice of heaven in the<br>national media, right?<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>> Ya mean this one?<br>><br>> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr"
target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/atmvfdr</a><br>><br>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .<br>><br>> "Moscow Cares"<br><br>> <a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a><br>><br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>><br>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still<br>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill<br><br>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."<br>><br>> - John Lennon<br>><br>><br>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>><br>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br>><br><br>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing
Thomas<br>> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br>><br>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br><br>><br>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>><br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br><br>> <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br>> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a> <<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br><br>> =======================================================<br>><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML
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ymailto="mailto:uhzpegQVSq7_rOXbNSdEQGdfQ2krwvyHZv13BBdDrr1PeA@mail.gmail.com">uhzpegQVSq7_rOXbNSdEQGdfQ2krwvyHZv13BBdDrr1PeA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Agreed. And they'll start with a firearms factory.<br><br>Have you read their Patriot Agreement? They sure do think weapons<br>proficiency is patriotic!<br><br>Whole thing reads wacky to me. Makes me want to laugh, ala The Colbert<br>Report Tom linked. But, so did the Aryan Nations before they actually went<br>ahead and set-up a compound...<br><br>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br><br><br>> From the link below: "The job opportunities and array of industries that<br>> will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire<br>> county to work thereby
eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing<br><br>> double-digit poverty level to zero." Pretty bold set of claims!<br>><br>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>><br>>> Anyone heard of this groups plans for building a walled community in<br>>> Benewah county? They claim to have already purchased twenty acres on top of<br>>> a mountain, with a goal of 3000 more.<br><br>>><br>>> They call themselves The Citadel, claim to be practicing Thomas<br>>> Jefferson's "Rightful Liberty."<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://iiicitadel.com/location.html" target="_blank">http://iiicitadel.com/location.html</a><br><br>>><br>>> Thier web page makes for some "interesting" reading.<br>>><br>>><br>>>
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