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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
dunno, Gary – if you think my response was “extra unpleasant” for pointing out
the sheer lunacy of the proposal, I think you need to read some of your own
responses . . . and grow the thicker skin as you seem to expect from
others."</SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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color=#000000>I don't expect much of anything from others and as your pal
tom has pointed out, my skin is more than adequately thick. I
was simply pointing out that charging out of the chute with your
shrill fishwife demeanor might be less then conducive to dialog. I know I
certainly find it off putting, perhaps in your circles it's considered
charming. Either way, I was just asking and now the answer is
clear.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And,
WTG! Completely ignore the valid points I raise. I guess that’s the
only response you could make given the unmitigated and uncountable instances in
which the mere presence of guns hasn’t stopped shooters, spree &
otherwise.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Did
you know, for instance, that there was someone <B>right there</B> carrying a gun
in the Tucson massacre, yet <B>unarmed</B> people had the shooter controlled
before the heat-packing dude could do a
thing?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></SPAN></FONT></SPAN>
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color=#000000>I provided no response because your point is anything but valid.
Of course there will be instances where good guys with firearms won't carry the
day in that they can't be everywhere. Did the fellow you refer to in Tucson or
the armed individuals at Columbine make the situation worse? There are
countless situations where an armed response by a responsible citizen has saved
lives, their own and those of others. Trying to make the argument that
since they can't be the perfect solution in every instance, they can't be the
solution in any instance is faulty logic in the
extreme.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm
CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">Saundra Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 31, 2012 10:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com
CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">'Gary Crabtree'</A> ; <A
title="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com">'Gary Crabtree'</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'viz'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Huh?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
dunno, Gary – if you think my response was “extra unpleasant” for pointing out
the sheer lunacy of the proposal, I think you need to read some of your own
responses . . . and grow the thicker skin as you seem to expect from
others.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And,
WTG! Completely ignore the valid points I raise. I guess that’s the
only response you could make given the unmitigated and uncountable instances in
which the mere presence of guns hasn’t stopped shooters, spree &
otherwise.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Did
you know, for instance, that there was someone <B>right there</B> carrying a gun
in the Tucson massacre, yet <B>unarmed</B> people had the shooter controlled
before the heat-packing dude could do a thing?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yet
another inconvenient fact, eh?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Saundra<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Gary Crabtree
[mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 22, 2012 6:38
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Saundra Lund; 'Gary Crabtree'; 'viz'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Vision2020] Huh?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I thought
the point here was to discuss options. Do you imagine that being extra
unpleasant lends an extra level of credence to your point of view?
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">g</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm
CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">Saundra Lund</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Friday, December
21, 2012 8:18 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com">'Gary Crabtree'</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'viz'</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [Vision2020]
Huh?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It
worked soo well at Columbine, didn’t it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Confrontation
by the armed officer on campus & the exchange of fire drove one of the
shooters <B>back into the school</B> to continue the slaughter. There’s a
stellar success!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Oops
– but don’t confuse you with reality & facts, right?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Saundra<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>
[<A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gary Crabtree<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 21, 2012 1:40
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Joe Campbell<BR><B>Cc:</B> viz<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Vision2020] Huh?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Training to become a cop in Idaho is 10 weeks making time not
much of an issue. There are quite a few things covered in POST that a school
guard would not need training in (pursuit driving, crime scene investigation,
etc. ) further reducing the time needed to get qualified people in place.
Utilizing vets who were MP's or members of security detachments along with
retired police officers would be prime candidates for positions such as
this.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>All entry doors in a facility could be easily modified to
emergency exit only except for one. This would make it so all visitors would be
funneled through one door and past one armed guard.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I really don't see what make this idea so unworkable other
then the fact that it doesn't jibe very well with the anti-gun
agenda.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>g<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Joe Campbell <<A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"
target=_blank>philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Scott,<BR><BR>There was an
Assistant Director of the FBI on CNN today explaining why this cannot be
implemented. Think of the training required before you release folks with guns
onto school campuses. Then think of the number of schools, the number of doors
to the school that would need to be guarded, the costs of training and hiring an
education militia, and the number of qualified people available for those
positions. This is a bad idea that does not stand a chance of getting passed.
Forget about it and move on to some actual solution.<BR><BR>Best,
Joe<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Scott Dredge <<A
href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com"
target=_blank>scooterd408@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Armed security is something that
could be implemented, regulated, and enforced much more easily than gun control,
gun bans, etc. Armed security guards could be subjected to more rigorous
background and mental heath checks plus mandatory training and licensing without
having that pesky 2nd Amendment coming into the mix. Somewhat similar to
how we supposedly have air marshalls on some flights. This might be one of
the very few things that the Republicans would actually be OK to put on the
fragile shoulders of tax paying individuals and businesses.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>From: <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"
target=_blank>thansen@moscow.com</A><BR>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:36:59
-0800<BR>To: <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: [Vision2020]
Huh?<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>"Before Congress reconvenes, before we engage in any lengthy
debate over legislation, regulation or anything else, as soon as our kids return
to school after the holiday break, we need to have every single school in
America immediately deploy a protection program proven to work — and by that I
mean armed security."<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>- Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of the
National Rifle Association (December 21, 2012)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"><A
href="http://tinyurl.com/cphq5lp"
target=_blank>http://tinyurl.com/cphq5lp</A></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>"Moscow Cares"<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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