<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><img src="cid:D68A38EE-BB12-4E06-88FF-2249DF114FFE" alt="wisconsin-teacher-union-sign-protestor-member-democrat-thug-sad-hill-news.jpg" id="D68A38EE-BB12-4E06-88FF-2249DF114FFE" width="576" height="384"><br><br><div>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares"</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div> </div></div></div><div><br>On Dec 30, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><image.jpeg></div><div><br></div><div><image.jpeg><br><br><div>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares"</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div> </div></div></div><div><br>On Dec 30, 2012, at 6:49 PM, "Sue Hovey" <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>Even more shameful than my being glad I’m retired is the sad fact that the
teachers I know are not encouraging their children to follow in their
footsteps. Many of us, particularly women, taught because our
mothers were teachers before us. Not any more. Mothers may not want
their sons to be cowboys but now that teaching has replaced postal clerking as
the most dangerous profession, who in their right mind would want someone they
love, to teach. Idaho teachers have dealt with a State Superintendent who
continues to demean them, state legislators who refuse to allocate funds for
living wages, and school board members who covertly waxed enthusiastic over last
year’s end-of-real-bargaining law, because fewer than ten districts in Idaho
have restored teacher contracts to the pre-Luna Laws days. We are so
damned lucky to have the teachers we do have. They will continue to leave
Idaho because they don’t really expect things to get much better. I had coffee
with a local teacher the other day who wanted to know how I managed to get my
High School Bowl and other academic teams to competitions state and
nation-wide. She is tired of having to raise the funds for those
experiences that make learning exciting for students. Well, twenty years
ago I did fund raising, too, but actually I had a budget to help me. The
state no longer funds buses for outside-the-class activities and the funds which
the legislature grants districts no longer stretch that far. She and I
both agree it is unfair to make students pay for those opportunities.
School experiences should be available for all students, not just those who can
afford the extras. Sorry for the rant, Joe. I’m done for
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<div>Sue H. </div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 30, 2012 3:02 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="suehovey@moscow.com" href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="areaman@moscow.com" href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan
Carscallen</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Questions to Ponder . .
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is the shame of it all, Sue. You're glad you're no longer a teacher. I'm glad a
work at a university and not teaching primary education. Who in their right mind
would want to teach primary education anymore? Less security, less pay
(relatively speaking), more criticism, more things to do (in part because there
are fewer resources yet more demands). And now we expect teachers to be able to
guard their students against potential shooters!<br><br>On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at
2:21 PM, Sue Hovey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Not really. They do have to be fingerprinted now. But teachers, and
everyone else, have considerable privacy rights regarding their mental health,
etc., through HIPPA Regs. One can buy a gun without being
fingerprinted, but thinking about it for myself, I have a shotgun and a 22,
yet there isn’t a grouse in Latah County that has too much to fear from me,
even when I’m armed. If I were registered to have a weapon in my class,
how would I keep it secure so no kid would get to it, yet have it readily
available in case I needed it? It couldn’t be stashed somewhere in the room,
because teachers regularly change classrooms during the day, and no woman
would ever find one quickly carrying it in her purse, but wearing it
while one teaches...there’s something unholy about that picture. </div>
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<div>Should we allow 22 year old teachers to carry concealed weapons, why not
let 18 year old students (who might well be crack shots) carry them,
too? I can think of a couple of school employees
(during my teaching) I wouldn’t have wanted to be around in the
event they were packing.</div>
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<div>It would be interesting should a district require all teachers to have
concealed weapon permits as well as teaching licenses...”right to work” would
take on a whole new meaning; not at odds, of course, with what Idahoans
already believe. I’m betting our good legislature will gauge the way the wind
blows and come up with a reasonable law we can all “live” with!!
That can be Luna’s new education reform. God, I am so very
glad I’m retired. </div>
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<div>Sue H. </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="areaman@moscow.com" href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com" target="_blank">Dan Carscallen</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:38 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">Moscow Vision 2020</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Questions to Ponder . .
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<div>I believe teachers should (and already do) undergo extensive background
checks<br><br>DC</div>
<div><br>On Dec 30, 2012, at 12:29, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Courtesy of today's (December 30, 2012) Spokesman-Review.</div>
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<h3 style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 21px 0px 7px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><font size="3"><span>Arming teachers a bad idea</span></font></h3>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>Knee-jerk
reactions are often made by fools; for example, arming teachers with guns.
Sounds like a great idea, right? However, I have some questions.</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>Would
all teachers be required to have a gun available in their
classroom?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>What
about teachers who refuse to arm themselves – would they be
fired?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>Who
would pay for teachers to become certified to handle a gun?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>Who
would buy the guns and ammunition?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>Would
teachers be required to undergo extensive background checks?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>How
would teachers keep the guns from students or visitors?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>What
would stop a disgruntled teacher from using the gun on students or other
teachers?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>Why
would someone intent on killing teachers/students even bother to bring a gun
into the school (they could carry a knife, wrench, club, etc., overwhelm one
teacher, and then gain access to potentially dozens of guns)?</span></p>
<p style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 0px 21px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span>Arming
teachers only ensures that guns are available to anyone who walks through
the front door. A knee-jerk reaction to solve a problem is never the
answer.</span></p>
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Scott</b></p></div>
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<div>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
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<div>"Moscow Cares"</div>
<div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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