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<body><div>Why do you expect more from Tom than you do of the NRA? Did you listen to their drivel today?! Do you not find it more objectionable for a national lobbying organization like the NRA with actual political power to "distract from identifying the actual problems and putting forth realistic solutions" than you for someone to do so on a community listserve? If not, why not? Sad.</div>
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<div>Quite frankly, the current NRA deserves to be demonized because they became part of the problem rather than part of the solution at some point. As I've mentioned several times before, most of my family members -- including those in the military and law enforcement -- were life-long NRA members until the NRA went completly 'round the bend. Now, not a single one continues to support the NRA although all have remained gun enthusiasts. They continue to lament the destruction of a formerly great (in their opinions) organization.</div>
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<div>If you've not already done so, I highly recommend reading "<span id="btAsinTitle">Ricochet: Confessions of a Gun Lobbyist" by Richard Feldman.</span></div>
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<div>On Fri, Dec 21, 2012, at 09:31 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:</div>
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Thanks for demonstrating all by your lonesome, Tom, why absolutely nothing will change to the status quo. But by all means, continue trying and failing to demonize the NRA further especially since there is no more room for them become more hated by people like you who are so easily distracted from identifying the actual problems and putting forth realistic solutions. Sad.</div>
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<div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: thansen@moscow.com</div>
<div>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 21:06:01 -0800</div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?</div>
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<div>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
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<div>"Moscow Cares"</div>
<div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
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<div><div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>On Dec 21, 2012, at 8:18 PM, "Saundra Lund" <<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote><div><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size">It worked soo well at Columbine, didn’t it?</span></span></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size"></span></span></span><br></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size">Confrontation by the armed officer on campus & the exchange of fire drove one of the shooters <b>back into the school</b> to continue the slaughter. There’s a stellar success!</span></span></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size"></span></span></span><br></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size">Oops – but don’t confuse you with reality & facts, right?</span></span></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size"></span></span></span><br></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size"></span></span></span><br></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size">Saundra</span></span></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="colour"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="size"></span></span></span><br></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="size">From:</span></span></b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="size"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Crabtree</span></span></p><div><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="size"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 21, 2012 1:40 PM</span></span></div>
<div><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="size"><b>To:</b> Joe Campbell</span></span></div>
<div><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="size"><b>Cc:</b> viz</span></span></div>
<div><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";' class="font"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class="size"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Huh?</span></span></div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><br></p><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">Training to become a cop in Idaho is 10 weeks making time not much of an issue. There are quite a few things covered in POST that a school guard would not need training in (pursuit driving, crime scene investigation, etc. ) further reducing the time needed to get qualified people in place. Utilizing vets who were MP's or members of security detachments along with retired police officers would be prime candidates for positions such as this.</p></div>
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<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">All entry doors in a facility could be easily modified to emergency exit only except for one. This would make it so all visitors would be funneled through one door and past one armed guard.</p></div>
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<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">I really don't see what make this idea so unworkable other then the fact that it doesn't jibe very well with the anti-gun agenda.</p></div>
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<div><p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><br></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="ecxMsoNormal">Scott,</p><div>There was an Assistant Director of the FBI on CNN today explaining why this cannot be implemented. Think of the training required before you release folks with guns onto school campuses. Then think of the number of schools, the number of doors to the school that would need to be guarded, the costs of training and hiring an education militia, and the number of qualified people available for those positions. This is a bad idea that does not stand a chance of getting passed. Forget about it and move on to some actual solution.</div>
<div>Best, Joe</div>
<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><div><div><p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="ecxMsoNormal">Armed security is something that could be implemented, regulated, and enforced much more easily than gun control, gun bans, etc. Armed security guards could be subjected to more rigorous background and mental heath checks plus mandatory training and licensing without having that pesky 2nd Amendment coming into the mix. Somewhat similar to how we supposedly have air marshalls on some flights. This might be one of the very few things that the Republicans would actually be OK to put on the fragile shoulders of tax paying individuals and businesses.</p><div><div style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center"><hr align="center" SIZE="2" width="100%"><br></div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal">From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></p><div>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:36:59 -0800</div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></div>
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<div><p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><br></p><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">"Before Congress reconvenes, before we engage in any lengthy debate over legislation, regulation or anything else, as soon as our kids return to school after the holiday break, we need to have every single school in America immediately deploy a protection program proven to work — and by that I mean armed security."</p></div>
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<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">- Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association (December 21, 2012)</p></div>
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<div><p class="ecxMsoNormal">"Moscow Cares"</p></div>
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