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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Since Paul’s not here to be the knee-jerk nanny, I’ll step in.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Talk about a knee-jerk reaction! Only the NRA’s suggestion supported by Scott & Wayne P & Gary Crabtree adds a layer of lunacy to the real knee-jerk reaction and further ups the ante with an unhealthy dollop of a three-year-old’s sticking his fingers in his ears to keep from having to acknowledge and address facts and reality rather than continuing to advocate fantasy and political agendas.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>First, you can’t coherently make the argument that on the one hand, if someone is intent on violence, they’ll find a way to do it with or without guns (a la Wayne Price’s stupid hammer post), so common-sense gun regulation won’t stop them, and <b>then</b> blow hot air on the other hand that the way to prevent violence at schools is to put guns in school. Clearly those making the suggestion aren’t particularly adept at critical thinking and logical coherence!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Second, a pretty solid argument can be made that the presence of guns in schools might attract more of these shooters. Maybe they are looking for suicide by cop, or maybe they’ll just want to prove their extraordinary evil prowess by “taking out” the armed rent-a-pig first. Besides, people bent on violence <b>neeevvveeerrr</b> target those they expect to be armed, do they?? No, of course not! All the drug-related shootings – and shoot-outs – expected the battle to be one-sided. Suurree. Jason Hamilton attacked the Sheriff’s Department expecting it to be unarmed, right? Prisons & jails with corrections personnel are expected to have nothing to defend their walls other than their words. Yuppers. Military groups are expected to be completely unarmed. Uh-huh. It’s total nonsense to expect anyone with a functioning brain to swallow the lunacy that having guns in schools will prevent either the evil or the unbalanced from targeting schools.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Third, and perhaps more importantly is the following. And, I’ll preface this part by saying that I mean absolutely <b>no</b> disrespect to the trained law enforcement personnel who were first on the scene and in the school. They performed admirably under unspeakably difficult circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But, the fact of the matter is that the presence of armed officers in the school <b>didn’t</b> stop the shooter, which is an excellent example of the absolute stupidity of the NRA’s propaganda.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN>"The first police officer on the scene was confronted by the glass window that Lanza had shot his way through to get past the locked door. The officer advanced into the school and saw the gunman, from a great distance down a long hallway, perhaps a couple of hundred feet. The gunman, dressed all in black, spotted the officer and ducked into a room off the hallway. As the officer, now joined by a partner began to rush down the hall toward the gunman they heard a volley of shots. When they got there, they found the gunman, dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Just beyond the gunman, in a classroom, children huddled together, and their teacher, all of them shot multiple times. Nearby, in a bathroom another group of children, huddled together, all shot multiple times. It appears that the gunman let go a last volley of shots at his victims before killing himself with a single bullet to the head."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559442/the-brief-enigmatic-life-of-mass-murderer-adam-lanza/">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559442/the-brief-enigmatic-life-of-mass-murderer-adam-lanza/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But maybe . . . just maybe . . . had the shooter not been using a high-capacity magazine, not all in that last classroom would have been slaughtered before LE was able to even make it to the classroom door.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And that very real possibility completely blows out of the water the crazy NRA & its fanatical followers’ insane suggestion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To care for anyone else enough to make their problems one's own, is ever the beginning of one's real ethical development.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Felix Adler<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wayne Price<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 21, 2012 10:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> Scott Dredge<br><b>Cc:</b> viz<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Pay to Play?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I agree that the "security" in schools are a good idea, and it will make jobs available to qualified veterans, so it's a two-fer!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The various state legislatures can pass the necessary legislation and it can be in place within weeks, IF the states so decide.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Scott Dredge wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Armed security is something that could be implemented, regulated, and enforced much more easily than gun control, gun bans, etc. Armed security guards could be subjected to more rigorous background and mental heath checks plus mandatory training and licensing without having that pesky 2nd Amendment coming into the mix. Somewhat similar to how we supposedly have air marshalls on some flights. This might be one of the very few things that the Republicans would actually be OK to put on the fragile shoulders of tax paying individuals and businesses.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>