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I don't know the answer, either. Right now, we're looking at this
guy through the filter of recent events. I'm sure he looked a lot
different through his mother's filters. To us, he seems like a
monster out of a particularly nasty fairy tale. To his mom, who
knows what he looked like. She may have simply trusted him with
the guns, despite whatever signs she may have chosen to ignore.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 12/18/2012 10:58 PM, Sue Hovey wrote:<br>
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<div>Paul, it’s second guessing, but I, too, have wondered why
she didn’t keep them in a gun safe. Surely not all were
bought for self protection. She had talked with others
about enjoying the shooting range. This isn’t meant to be a
rationale for anything, just a sidebar. </div>
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<div>Sue H. </div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="godshatter@yahoo.com"
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:02 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan
Arnold</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">Saundra Lund</a>
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<div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="vision2020@moscow.com"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'vision 2020'</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Isn't it about
time . . .</div>
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roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE:
12pt">I'd also like to point out that all the mental
health evaluations in the world needed to purchase a gun
wouldn't have helped in this case because they weren't his
guns to begin with.<br>
<br>
Once the hysteria dies down, thinking up ways that we can
help ensure that gun owners are more responsible with
their guns at home when they are not being used would be a
good idea. If this guy's mother had kept her guns in a
gun safe, he would have had a harder time getting to
them. They would have been safe from any children that
might have been in the house as well, and probably would
have made them less accident-prone as well. The downside
is that they are not immediately available if you hear a
prowler in the house.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b>
Donovan Arnold
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b>
Paul Rumelhart <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></a>;
Saundra Lund <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"><v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm></a> <br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b>
'vision 2020' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a> <br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b>
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:58 AM<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Vision2020] Isn't it about time . . .<br>
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<div><span><span id="yiv1719838304misspell-0"><span>I
don't know about you, but I still see
lots of dangerous idiots behind the
wheel of cars regardless of all the
regulations. </span></span></span></div>
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roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR:
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roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR:
rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><span><span><span>Unfortunately</span></span>,
regardless of the timing or breathe of time
allowed to resolve an issue, the nation
usually chooses political and financial
solutions for the wealthy,<var
id="yiv1719838304yui-ie-cursor"></var> not
realistic ones that resolve the real
problems for the average person. </span></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;
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roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR:
rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><span>My bet will
be the average person will have to pay an
extra $100 a year to go to the mental health
<span id="yiv1719838304misspell-1"><span>professionals</span></span>
that are lobbying Congress to do bullshit
mental health evaluations on all persons
wanting to purchase certain particular
automatic rifles that will not even be in
production in a year. </span></div>
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roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR:
rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><span></span> </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;
FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: times new
roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR:
rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><span>Its kind of
like the physicals truck drivers are
required to take <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-0">before</span>
pulling an 80,000 load down the highway. You
can tell just by looking at a 72 year old,
chain smoking, 350lbs driver he could drop
dead any minute (and they do, even while
driving), but they get their DOT health
clearance cards anyways, by simply paying
the $100. </span></div>
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<div><span>Donovan J. Arnold</span></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b>
Paul Rumelhart
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b>
Saundra Lund
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"><v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm></a> <br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b>
'vision 2020'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a> <br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, December 17, 2012 9:41 PM<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Vision2020] Isn't it about time . .
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12/17/2012 08:14 PM, Saundra Lund
wrote:<br>
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<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
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FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Paul wrote:</span></div>
<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: black">“Anything
we try to do in the meantime
will almost certainly be an
overreaction.”</span><span
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<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: #1f497d;
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<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Given the
horrendous regularity of gun
violence in this nation, how
convenient for people to
propose that <b>after</b>
violence <span
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class="yiv1719838304mark">isn</span>’t
the time to look at much needed
and long overdue reforms. That
position guarantees reform will
<b>never</b> happen because
there will <b>never</b> be
enough time between incidents.
And, frankly, I don’t know how
those who’<span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-4"
class="yiv1719838304mark">ve</span>
continued to advocate the “hands
off” approach to meaningful
reform dare to look in their
damn mirrors anymore.</span></div>
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<br>
You are generally a calm, rational
poster. You mention a solution below
(treating guns with the same types of
laws we treat buying, selling, and
operating cars) that has promise and
should be discussed. Watch over the
next few days, on this list and on the
national stage, what solutions will be
proposed. I could be wrong, but I
expect calm, rational solutions to be in
the minority.<br>
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<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Fortunately,
many people are far more capable
of reasoned thinking in crisis
than you want to give us credit
for. Besides, Paul, quite a few
people, including a lot of
really smart ones, have been
discussing reasonable reform
long before the SHES tragedy.
It’s not like the lunacy of gun
violence in America is new.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Long before the
SHES tragedy, I was beyond
heartbroken by the nearly daily
news coverage of this child or
that being accidentally shot –
and often killed -- by their
parents’ weapons. And, I was
beyond weary of this person or
that being killed by a stolen
gun or a gun purchased through
the gun show loophole that <b>never</b>
should have been sold to an
individual. It’s crystal clear
to me that far too many “gun
enthusiasts” take advantage of
their right to have whatever
weapons their hearts’ desire
without taking the <b>responsibility</b>
that goes along with having
those weapons, and anyone who
argues that <span
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class="yiv1719838304mark">isn</span>’t
the case is a damn fool or a
damn liar. When products have
hurt or killed far, far fewer
than those who are victims or
survivors of gun violence, we <b>demand</b>
reform. What on earth is wrong
with people who choose to accept
the shameless fear-mongering of
the despicable NRA over good-<span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-6"
class="yiv1719838304mark">ol</span>’
<b>American </b>common sense?!?</span></div>
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<br>
There is plenty of room for compromise
here, as long as both sides of the
conversation can actually happen. In
this media circus atmosphere, who dares
stand up for the original intent of the
Second Amendment, when "think of the
children!" is all that we will hear?
I'm damn tired of people trying to
manipulate me through fear. In 2009
there were 11,493 firearm related
homicides in the U.S. In 2009 there
were also 125,464 deaths due to acute
myocardial infarction. Are people going
to get up in arms about the bad health
of the average American the next time a
celebrity dies of a heart attack with
the same <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-7"
class="yiv1719838304mark">fervour</span>
that is happening right now over this
massacre? I doubt it, because this is a
spectacle and it sells. Thus, my
earlier contention that it might be a
good idea to wait until Lindsay <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-8"
class="yiv1719838304mark">Lohan</span>
goes to rehab again and the media
spotlight turns on her before we can
make any serious progress that has a
hope of standing up in court.<br>
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<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: #1f497d;
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wrote:</span></div>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d;
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style="COLOR: black">For
instance, if I said "the second
amendment is about more than
protecting kindergartners from
being shot", I would currently
be lambasted as an uncaring
person who is dancing on the
graves of 6 year-<span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-9"
class="yiv1719838304mark">olds</span>
or something.”</span></div>
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<div class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: #1f497d;
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Nonsense, and
I’m getting pretty tired of your
very frequent “everybody always
picks on me” belly-aching. Is
this paranoia a part of your
daily life, or do you just show
it here?</span></div>
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<br>
It's not a cry for help, it's merely a
prediction. When previous attempts at
calm, rational discourse have been
twisted so horribly, so many times, you
start to see a pattern emerge. One that
even a myopic social liberal, fiscal
conservative, and civil libertarian will
notice after a while.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul
Rumelhart<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday,
December 17, 2012 4:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sue <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-11"
class="yiv1719838304mark">Hovey</span>;
<span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-12"
class="yiv1719838304mark">Sunil</span>
<span
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class="yiv1719838304mark">Ramalingam</span>;
vision 2020<br>
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time . . .</span></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: white"
class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR: black">A few
days after the accident when
they are discussing the
funerals on TV of the kids and
are interviewing bereaved
parents and getting the "man
on the street's" view of
things is a horrible time to
try to sit down and have a
rational conversation about
what we can and cannot do to
help strengthen our gun laws
or figure out a better way to
deal with mental health
problems. It's a great time
to act if you are a group that
has a preset agenda and just
happens to have a bill all
written up that you have been
dying to pass, but that won't
help anyone but the people
with the agendas. See our
reaction as a country to 9/11
as a good lesson on this
topic.<br>
<br>
I'm hoping lawmakers will wait
until the passion of the
moment has died down and we
have some distance before we
try to rework the gun laws.
Fat chance, I know.<br>
<br>
For instance, if I said "the
second amendment is about more
than protecting kindergartners
from being shot", I would
currently be lambasted as an
uncaring person who is dancing
on the graves of 6 year-<span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-14" class="yiv1719838304mark">olds</span> or
something. *Maybe* in a few
weeks we'll be able to really
discuss it. Anything we try
to do in the meantime will
almost certainly be an
overreaction.<br>
<br>
Paul</span></div>
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style="COLOR: black;
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Sue <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-15" class="yiv1719838304mark">Hovey</span>
<</span><a
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<b>To:</b> <span
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class="yiv1719838304mark">Sunil</span> <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-17"
class="yiv1719838304mark">Ramalingam</span> <</span><a
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href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"
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vision 2020 <</span><a
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<b>Cc:</b> Paul
Rumelhart <</span><a
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday,
December 17, 2012 3:07
PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Vision2020] Isn't it
about time . . .</span><span
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<div
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style="COLOR:
black">“Knee-jerk
reaction or
fear-driven
acts.” Those
are interesting
but patronizing
ways to
characterize the
responses to
these killings,
and of the same
mindset, I
think, as “guns
don’t kill
people.” We
need to be
considering all
our options and
we should have
been doing that
for a very long
time. Those of
us who live
here, own guns,
and use them for
hunting and
self-protection
need to be
willing to look
at the cultural
issues that are
bigger than our
own mindsets.
Might it not be
that we need to
consider
restating the
Second Amendment
in such a way as
to prohibit
private
ownership of
certain types of
armament? We
already do some
of that within
the scope of the
amendment; why
not look
further? Why
not consider the
way we publicize
the events...the
murderer, who
may have never
had much in the
way of self
gratification,
can be sure if
his, yes his,
crime is of a
certain
magnitude, he
will be
remembered for
the way it was
publicized with
his face on
every newscast
and every front
page? A First
Amendment
question....dare
we consider
it? There are
a lot of issues
here, none of
them trivial. </span></div>
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FONT-SIZE:
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December 17,
2012 2:06 PM</span></div>
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2020</span></a><span
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<div
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style="COLOR:
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10pt">Subject:</span></b><span
style="COLOR:
black;
FONT-SIZE:
10pt"> Re:
[Vision2020]
Isn't it about
time . . .</span></div>
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<div
style="BACKGROUND:
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class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR:
black">But the
cartoon
doesn't
advocate
banning all
guns. It shows
someone
leaving the
NRA, which
opposes the
regulation you
find
reasonable.<br>
<br>
The <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-21"
class="yiv1719838304mark">NRA's</span> response to regulation is
fear-driven.
It's one of
their
marketing
techniques, or
to use another
of your terms
below, a
knee-jerk
reaction.<br>
<br>
<span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-22"
class="yiv1719838304mark">Sunil</span></span></div>
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<div
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style="COLOR:
black">Date:
Mon, 17 Dec
2012 14:01:04
-0800<br>
From: </span><a
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target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><span>godshatter@yahoo.com</span></a><span
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Subject: Re:
[Vision2020]
Isn't it about
time . . .<br>
To: </span><a
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rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><span>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</span></a><span
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<div>
<div
style="BACKGROUND:
white"
class="yiv1719838304MsoNormal"><span
style="COLOR:
black">There's
a difference
between being
prepared and
simply
reacting to
something. I
take a blanket
and a
flashlight
with me on
winter trips
in the car, I
carry jumper
cables in the
trunk, I have
smoke alarms
and a fire
extinguisher
in my house, I
bring a space
blanket, some
matches, and a
folding knife
with me when I
go hiking, and
I keep a gun
at home in
case I need to
protect
myself.<br>
<br>
Banning all
guns because
someone used
one in a
horrifying way
appears to me
to be more of
a fear-driven
act. There is
definitely
room for
improvement in
who we sell
guns to and
how well we
learn how to
use them but
that's a
discussion
that should
happen after
the knee-jerk
reactions have
passed.<br>
<br>
Paul</span></div>
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style="COLOR:
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FONT-SIZE:
10pt"> <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-23" class="yiv1719838304mark">Sunil</span> <span
id="yiv1719838304misspell-24" class="yiv1719838304mark">Ramalingam</span>
<</span><a
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<b>To:</b>
vision 2020
<</span><a
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<b>Sent:</b>
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2012 1:33 PM<br>
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Re:
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time . . .</span><span
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<br>
Doesn't that
apply to both
sides of the
argument?<br>
<br>
<span
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class="yiv1719838304mark">Sunil</span></span></div>
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Mon, 17 Dec
2012 13:27:10
-0800<br>
From: </span><a
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target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><span
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To: </span><a
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Subject: Re:
[Vision2020]
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time . . .</span></div>
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<div
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style="COLOR:
black">If you
want your life
to be ruled by
fear-driven
reflex, sure.<br>
<br>
Paul</span></div>
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