<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is a fact. Billions around the world practice what they believe is a form of it. I don't have a problem with someone not believing in God. But I am rightfully offended for someone to claim people that believe in God or a superior being or beings do so because they have stupid naive childlike minds that don't understand science. This is <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>arrogant</SPAN></SPAN> thinking because many people believe in God because of the evidence God has presented to them as an individual in their life. You mock billions and their personal experiences only because you have not had the experiences they have had. I feel sorrow for these people, and pray <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto"
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<DIV id=yiv1318885200>One could easily argue that teaching children that Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or etc as fact rather than fantasy based on faith/hope is child abuse, and abuse which can have an long term deleterious consequences.<BR><BR>w.<BR>
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<div class=yiv1318885200MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Paul, after listening to Judd Wilson’s & his pal Greg Evan’s complaints, they think that their offense at having their Christianity “mocked” on a billboard (you can bet neither would give a rip if the Islamic faith was a specific target since both men supported a candidate who distributed an ugly attack on that faith) is more important than the First Amendment.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1318885200MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">No, the City didn’t put up the billboard nor does it own the billboard or the land. The billboard & land are privately owned AFAIK, and the American Humanist Association (AHA) paid for the content, just like they’ve done periodically for several years now.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1318885200MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">As Ted pointed out, Christianity isn’t specifically targeted on the billboard, but both Christian men took offense nonetheless, and I doubt either would care if some other religion had been targeted as neither men are known for their religious tolerance or acceptance.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1318885200MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Additionally, Judd Wilson stooped to a particularly low level dragging his young child into the argument when his comments make it clear that it wasn’t his daughter who was offended but rather he himself. Not that it would matter, IMHO: when a child’s offense at being pressured (I hope they aren’t still required!) to participate or witness in vivisection doesn’t matter, mere words on a billboard certainly don’t.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1318885200MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">As to why they took it to the City Council, I imagine they were hoping they could sucker the City into a costly effort to suppress the First Amendment. Religious bigots like those men have a long history, especially in this area, of trying to use the law to force their religious beliefs on the rest of us. I imagine they were hoping they could whip enough other religious bigots (similar to 2004) into a frenzy to get the City to do something stupid.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1318885200MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I don’t know why Judd Wilson thinks the billboard is any different than the unsolicited offensive crap pretending to be a legit newspaper he sent out via the USPS.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></div>
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<DIV class=yiv1318885200im><BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 07, 2012 3:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Rumelhart<BR></DIV><B>Cc:</B> Lois; Friends of the Clearwater; Moscow Vision 2020; Jeanne McHale; Fritz Knorr; Friends of the Palouse Ranger District
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