<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>At BARE MINIMUM the mayor and city council must publicly discuss, during a city council session, Tim Brown's eligibility (or lack thereof) to sit on the Moscow City Council in order to make their decision a matter of record.</div><div><br></div><div>It's called "transparency".<br><br><div>Seeya at the polls, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares"</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."</div><div><br></div><div>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div><div><br>On Oct 31, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Ron Force posted that Brown has a Washington driver's license.<br><br>If that is true, then to obtain such a license, the applicant has to affirm that they have established residency in Washington, and they must surrender any license from another state.<br>
<br><a href="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.20.021">http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.20.021</a><br><br>If Brown has in fact obtained a Washington driver's license, then he has affirmed under oath and penalty of perjury that he is a Washington resident, therefore not a Moscow, Idaho resident, and therefore not legally qualified to continue serving on the Moscow city council.<br>
<br>If the above is the case, then it is up to the City of Moscow to initiate proceedings to remove him.<br><br>Given the known predilections of at least two council members for dishonesty and disobeying inconvenient laws, probably nothing will happen until some Moscow resident decides to force the issue through some legal process starting with a letter of demand to the mayor and city council.<br>
<br>If Brown has in fact obtained a Washington driver's license, but continues to serve on the Moscow City Council, then his character and integrity are certainly not honorable. It should come as no surprise then that I disagree with Gary Crabtree that Brown is a worthy role model. In fact, if the allegations about his residency are true, then his whole range of past business and personal dealings in Moscow are open to question.<br>
<br>w.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>Ahhh, the memories . . .</div><div><br></div><div>Right, Joe?</div><div><br></div><div>The Date: February 3, 2009</div><div><br></div><div>The Place: Friendship Square</div><div><br></div><div><image.jpeg></div>
<div><br></div><div>Pop quiz, V-Peeps!</div><div><br></div><div>One of these gentlemen (I may be only half right) is "Philosopher Joe" Campbell, notorious moderator of KRFP's "Sound and Fury". The other one isn't.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Question: Who's who?<br><br><div>Seeya at the polls, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares"</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
<div> </div><div class="im"><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."</div>
<div><br></div><div>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Again, I'm happy to know that you're satisfied but clearly not everyone is.<br><br>On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:46 AM, "Gary Crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com" target="_blank">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Calibri">Hey, it was your odd analogy that introduced the
masculine/feminine into the discourse, I just tried to frame my response (no
argument) within it.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri">It's my understanding that Tim is staying with his
sister till his term as councilman is up. He is not driving down from Spokane to
attend meetings and returning to Washington.</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri">While some may consider this an "issue" it sure isn't
much of one. I feel sure that Tom and the usual suspects can whine to their
little hearts content but, Tim will effectively serve </font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri">out his term and then move on.</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">g</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:35 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com" target="_blank">Gary Crabtree</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">Gary Crabtree</a> ; <a title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">Moscow Vision 2020</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .</div></div></div>
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<div>First, this is a bad argument. By this reasoning, even if Brown lived in
NYC it would be OK. As long as he was "manly," or whatever. That is
absurd.</div>
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<div>Second, you are missing the point. Personally I don't care too much where
Brown lives. But just because it isn't an issue for me, or you, or Matt doesn't
mean it isn't an issue. If enough people care, it is an issue. That's how
politics works. The existence of this thread suggests that it is an issue.</div>
<div><br>On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, "Gary Crabtree" <<a title="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com" target="_blank">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri">Actually, in keeping with your flawed analogy, it
was much more like saying that there are those who have been using the men's
room since 1992 who might do well to emulate someone who has
had it down all their life. Sorry if my initial post was overly
subtle.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Calibri">g</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:58 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">Gary Crabtree</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org" href="mailto:foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org" target="_blank">Friends of the Clearwater</a> ;
<a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">Moscow
Vision 2020</a> ; <a title="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" target="_blank">Jeanne McHale</a> ; <a title="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">Fritz Knorr</a> ; <a title="fprd09@gmail.com" href="mailto:fprd09@gmail.com" target="_blank">Friends of the Palouse Ranger District</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . .
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<div>This is like saying if someone was male for most of his life and then
becomes a women, she should still be able to use the men's room.<br><br>On Oct
30, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Gary Crabtree <<a title="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Tim has been a respected and productive member of the community since
decades prior to 1992. Where he's living at this particular moment has
little bearing on his effectiveness as a council member. You might even
consider him for a potential role model.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Is it true that Tim Brown (member of the Moscow City
Council) resides in . . . SPOKANE, WASHINGTON ? ? ?<br><br>It does matter,
V-Peeps, because . . .<br><br>"Moscow Cares"<br><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a><br><br>Tom "a constituent who
has lived within the city limits of Moscow, Idaho since 1992"
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