<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Good points. Why don't people talk about getting pregnant while using protection? This is classified as some type of inappropriate behavior. It's like blaming someone for getting the flu even though they got a flu shot. Joe<br><br>On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:08 PM, Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Whether Akin meant to say 'forcible' rape vs 'legitimate' rape isn't the issue to me. It's his extreme stance of 'no abortions / no exceptions'. It doesn't matter to him if women are pregnant for any reasons including date rape, forcible rape, or even lying about being raped to avoid being ostracized by their church and their conservative families. No abortions / no exceptions / no periods.<br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:54:54 -0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: [Vision2020] Threats to Rights for Women<br><br><div style="">Courtesy of the Letters section of today's (October 3, 2012) Moscow-Pullman Daily News with thanks to Nick Gier.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">------------------------------------</div><div><h1 style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><font size="3"><span style="">Threats to rights for women</span></font></h1><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">In backing off from his atrocious remarks about "legitimate" rape, Missouri Congressman Todd Akin said he meant to say "forcible" rape.</span></p><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">This phrase was in a bill co-sponsored by Reps. Paul Ryan and Akin, in which abortions are allowed only in cases of "forcible" rape. The clear implication is that some women who claim to have been raped have somehow consented to the act.</span></p><div class="ecxencrypted-content" style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:left"><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">A 2005 Amnesty International survey showed 34 percent of Britons - men and women together - believed women, because of their actions and/or dress, were responsible for their attacks. Why do so many people still believe women are "asking for it" or "free for the taking."</span></p></div><div class="ecxencrypted-content" style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:left"><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">In the Renaissance, wedding chests were frequently decorated with images of the Sabine women being ravished, and we must ask ourselves what message this offered to the bride and groom. It certainly would warn the bride that the groom, as Moscow pastor Douglas Wilson said, "has a right to penetrate," and she has a duty to "receive, surrender and accept" (Wilson, "Fidelity: What it Means to be a One-Woman Man," (Moscow, Canon Press, 1999, Pages 86-87).</span></p></div><div class="ecxencrypted-content" style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:left"><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">Recent studies cited by the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape show that 43 percent of American college men believe it is OK to coerce women to have sex.</span></p></div><div class="ecxencrypted-content" style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:left"><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">All males used to have unconditional sexual access to their wives, and marital rape is still not illegal in 140 countries. In 1975, South Dakota was the first state to give its women the rights of refusal, but North Carolina lingered until 1993.</span></p></div><div class="ecxencrypted-content" style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:left"><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">Many conservative Christians still insist the husband must be the ruler of his wife. Criminalizing marital rape would, in Wilson's words, undermine "the concept of authority and submission in marriage."</span></p></div><div class="ecxencrypted-content" style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:left"><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><span style="">In their attempts to control (even penetrate with vaginal probes) women's bodies, far too many American politicians stand as a threat to the basic rights of women.</span></p></div><div class="ecxencrypted-content" style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;text-align:left"><p style="text-align:-webkit-auto;outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:none"><strong style="outline:0px;float:none !important;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">Nick Gier, </strong><span style="">Moscow</span></p></div></div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">------------------------------------<br><br>Seeya at the polls, Moscow, because . . .<div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares"</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. 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