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<DIV>Just looking at the teachers who have gone through the National Board
Program, with the salary holdbacks, and the freeze on advancement, plus the loss
of the state-allocated stipend, their loss through the Luna Laws could be as
high as $8,000, and that doesn’t count the coming year. Even were they to
get a $2000 bonus (I read that’s the ballpark figure) it doesn’t replace
lost salary or stipends and will not go to count toward retirement, so over a
dozen years or so, that loss could be substantial. Additionally, even
though Luna says he’s requesting one year of salary makeup, the way the law is
written, it occurs only AFTER the Luna laws are fully funded, so teachers know
it isn’t likely to happen. Why wouldn’t they leave? Even with all
it’s budget problems a teacher who leaves Idaho for Washington will get a better
salary and $5,000 or $10,000 yearly stipend for National Certification depending
on where they work. Districts in Latah County have continued to pay $2,000
stipends (replacing the state allocation) hoping to hold teachers
here. And you know, it isn’t just the salary; it’s increased
work load, class size, and other issues...teachers in some districts having to
buy their own supplies so students will have what they need, in others knowing
there is no money for subs should they become ill, in others having more kids in
a class than there are desks. There are many others, these are just
three that have been highlighted in the paper recently. </DIV>
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<DIV>And by the way, if anyone would like a No On Props 1,2,3 sign please let me
know. The cost is $3.00 but a number of us are just paying for what we get
so that isn’t a problem. I need an address obviously. </DIV>
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<DIV>Sue Hovey </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:58 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=moscowcares@moscow.com
href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">Moscow Cares</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020 discussions</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] More Idaho teachers leave
profession</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">"Moscow Cares"</DIV>
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<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
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<DIV>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
college students are not very active in local elections (thank
goodness!)."</DIV>
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<DIV>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</DIV>
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<DIV style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><BR>On Sep 29, 2012, at 5:31 PM,
Moscow Cares <<A
href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">moscowcares@moscow.com</A>>
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<DIV>Lookin' back . . .</DIV>
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<DIV>Forum Concerning Education and State Revenue (February 19, 2911)</DIV>
<DIV>Capitol Building, Boise</DIV>
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<DIV>Presidents' Day Education Rally (February 21, 2011)</DIV>
<DIV>Friendship Square, Moscow</DIV>
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<DIV>Idaho Senate Bill 1108 (February 24, 2011)</DIV>
<DIV>Education - Collective Bargaining</DIV>
<DIV>Before the Idaho Senate</DIV>
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href="http://www.moscowcares.com/forthepeople/IEA_SB1108_042711.htm">http://www.moscowcares.com/forthepeople/IEA_SB1108_042711.htm</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Moscow High School Students Protest Superintendent Tom Luna's Education
Reform Plan</DIV>
<DIV>(March 4, 2011)</DIV>
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<DIV>And (crank up your speakers for) . . . </DIV>
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<DIV>Protest in Support of Teachers' Right to Collective Bargaining (March 9,
2011)</DIV>
<DIV>Intersection of State Highway 8 and Farm Road</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.moscowcares.com/Protest_030911.mp4">http://www.moscowcares.com/Protest_030911.mp4</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Seeya at the polls, Moscow, because . . .
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<DIV>"Moscow Cares"</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.MoscowCares.com">http://www.MoscowCares.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
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<DIV>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
college students are not very active in local elections (thank
goodness!)."</DIV>
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<DIV>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Kenneth Marcy <<A
href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com">kmmos1@frontier.com</A>>
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<P class="published dtstamp" title=2012-09-29t01:04:06z>Posted on September
29, 2012 at 2:04 PM</P>
<P class="updated dtstamp" title=2012-09-29t01:21:54z>Updated today at 2:21
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<P>"BOISE -- More Idaho teachers left the profession last year, but state
officials say they've also certificated more educators.</P>
<P>Data obtained Friday by The Associated Press shows about 1,800 teachers
left the profession for various reasons during the 2011-2012 school year.
That's up from the previous year, when 1,300 teachers left, and the year
before, when 700 departed.</P>
<P>The statewide teachers union attributed the increased exits last year to
reforms that limited collective bargaining and job protections. Public
schools chief Tom Luna countered that the recession was more likely the
culprit.</P>While teachers left the profession in bigger numbers last year,
Luna's department says there's also been a 25 percent increase in the
issuance of teaching certificates and as a result, the number of
certificated staff in schools is about the
same."<BR><BR>================<BR><BR>Based on the 2008 number of full-time
equivalent teachers in Idaho of 15,148, a three-year turnover of 1,800 +
1,300 + 700 = 3,800 is equal to 25.08 percent (3,800 / 15,148). If this
turnover rate is maintained for the next nine years, there will have been a
total teacher turnover in Idaho schools from the base three years
ago.<BR><BR>I suppose it's possible Idaho might become an education
recruiting convenience location for other states who know that after two or
three years of modestly-paid Idaho experience, at least some Idaho teachers
will be ready to move out-of-state and up the salary ladder in a new
teaching position.<BR><BR>If Idaho has a relative plenty of positions that
don't require lots of higher education, and for those positions that do
require engineering, science, and other technical and professional skills,
employers tend to hire from out-of-state, what is an Idaho graduate to do?
Leave the state? Well, . . ., yeah.<BR><BR>So, just how effective is Idaho's
higher education leadership? Teacher turnover up to rates that would get
most managers probation, if not a pink slip, and high-quality graduates as
likely to export themselves for employment as not.<BR><BR>Times are
changing. I remember my mother saying that one of her strictest grade school
teachers turned up in her school life again as a high school English
teacher. So, I was not at all surprised when my fifth grade teacher turned
out to be my high school freshman English teacher. Those were the days when
a high school yearbook picture of the students who spent all twelve of their
school years in the same local school district would have enough students in
the photograph to fill up the outside entrance stairway into the high school
auditorium.<BR><BR>We seem to be steadily moving from relatively more static
social conditions to relatively more fluid social conditions. Perhaps we are
observing an ongoing social climate warming within which the growing
population is creating more pressure and raising the social temperature.
Maybe Sartre was onto something when he suggested existentialism, and that,
from a No Exit perspective, hell is other
people.<BR><BR><BR>Ken<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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