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The DaVinci Code is actually based on a book called "Holy Blood,
Holy Grail" by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln.
I have a copy somewhere, but I can't find it. This book is
non-fiction, though it's been widely criticised for being far too
speculative and not based on solid research. Their main source
may even have been a hoax, which they took to be true.
Nevertheless, the book describes how Jesus was married to Mary,
how she was smuggled out of Jerusalem and ended up in France.
There are lots of ties to the Templars and to a supposedly real
Priory of Sion. Mary's bloodline merged with the bloodlines of
French nobles that eventually became the Merovingian dynasty. The
Holy Grail is supposed to be both Mary's womb, and the bloodline
of Jesus. I can't remember all of it, but it was definitely an
interesting read.<br>
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There are other reasons to think that Jesus might have been
married, you can find many of them on the web. One common one is
that Jesus was often called Rabbi (teacher) and that at the time
Rabbis would have been looked on with disapproval if they weren't
married. The counter to that is that the disciples might have
been merely using the title of Rabbi because he was a teacher to
them, not that he was an actual Rabbi in the Jewish faith.<br>
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I've also heard that biblically, there are parables of biblical
men meeting their brides at a well, with the well symbolising
something about their purity. Jesus had an encounter with a woman
by a well.<br>
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Anyway, not trying to step on anyone's faith, I just find this
interesting.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 09/19/2012 04:09 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:<br>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">The DaVinci
Code isn't real. Even if so this doesn't mean they were
married. Talk about reading into something that isn't there.
They didn't know about germs and viruses spreading through
the mouth, so it would not be uncommon to kiss people you
care about on the mouth. Many affectionate <span
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auto">societies</span></span> and families do this <span
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I thought this was already "known"
from the Gospel of Philip, one of the New Testament
apocrypha from the Nag Hammadi scrolls. It was quoted
in The DaVinci Code, too, I think.<wbr><wbr>" <font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="en-US"><b>59: The wisdom which (humans)
call barren is herself the Mother of the
Angels.</b></span></font></font><font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="es-PA"><b>¹</b></span></font></font> <font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="en-US"><b>And the companion</b></span></font></font>
<font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="en-US"><b>of the [Christ] is Mariam the
Magdalene. The [Lord loved] Mariam more than
[all the (other)] Disciples, [and he] kissed
her often on her [mouth].</b></span></font></font><font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="es-PA"><b>²</b></span></font></font> <font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="en-US"><b>The other [women] saw his love
for Mariam,</b></span></font></font><sup><font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" size="2"><span
lang="es-PA"><b>c</b></span></font></font></sup>
<font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="en-US"><b>they say to him: Why do thou
love [her] more than all of us? || The Savior</b></span></font></font><a
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href="http://www.metalog.org/files/philip.html#Savior"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><font face="Times
New Roman, serif"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt"
size="3"><span lang="en-US"><b>º</b></span></font></font></span></a>
<font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="en-US"><b>replied,</b></span></font></font><font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="es-PA"><b>³</b></span></font></font> <font
face="Times New Roman, serif"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" size="3"><span
lang="en-US"><b>he says to them: Why do I not
love you as (I do) her?</b>"<br>
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From this web page:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.metalog.org/files/philip.html">http://www.metalog.org/files/philip.html</a><br>
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I'll have to look in my copy of the Nag Hammadi
library when I get a chance and see how it's
translated there.<br>
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The more interesting Apocryphal book, in my
opinion, is The Infancy Gospel of Thomas:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gnosis.org/library/inftomb.htm">http://www.gnosis.org/library/inftomb.htm</a>, which
covers some of Jesus' life when he was around 8
years old. <br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<div>A Harvard historian has identified a faded,
fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The
Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn
fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus
said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line
states, "she will be able to be my disciple."</div>
<div>The finding was announced to the public
today (Sept. 18) by Karen King, a historian of
early Christianity, author of several books
about new Gospel discoveries and the Hollis
professor of divinity at Harvard Divinity
School. King first examined the privately
owned fragment in 2011, and has since been
studying it with the help of a small group of
scholars.</div>
<div>According to the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Times</a>, King and her collaborators have
concluded that the business card-size fragment
is not a forgery, and she is presenting the
discovery today at a meeting of International
Congress of Coptic Studies in Rome. </div>
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<div>The fragment, written in Coptic, the
language of a group of early Christians in
Egypt, has an unknown provenance, and its
owner has opted to remain anonymous. Questions
about the fragment abound, but scholars say it
will nonetheless reignite several old debates:
Was Jesus married? If so, was Mary Magdalene
his wife? And did he have a female disciple? [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2319-jesus-christ-man-physical-evidence-hold.html"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jesus Christ
the Man: Does the Physical Evidence Hold Up?</a>]</div>
<div>Scholars say these controversies date to
the early centuries of Christianity, but they
remain relevant today. In the Roman Catholic
Church, for example, women and married men are
barred from priesthood because of the model
thought to have been set by Jesus.</div>
<div>King has cautioned that the new discovery
should not be taken as proof that Jesus was
actually married. The text appears to have
been written centuries after he lived, and all
other early Christian literature is silent on
the question of his marital status.</div>
<div>But the scrap of papyrus — the first known
statement from antiquity that refers to Jesus
speaking of a wife — provides evidence that
there was an active discussion among early
Christians about whether Jesus was <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/666-which-jobs-require-celibacy-.html"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">celibate</a> or
married, and which path his followers should
choose, King told the Times.</div>
<div>"This fragment suggests that some early
Christians had a tradition that Jesus was
married," she said. "There was, we already
know, a controversy in the second century over
whether Jesus was married, caught up with a
debate about whether Christians should marry
and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/1607-why-sex-evolved.html"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">have sex</a>."</div>
<div>The significance of this fragment was known
by scholars previously, and then forgotten.
When its current owner acquired it in a batch
of papyri in 1997 from its previous owner, a
German, it came with a handwritten note. The
note cited a now-deceased professor of
Egyptology in Berlin as having called the
fragment "the sole example" of a text in which
Jesus claims a wife.</div>
<div>According to the Times, papyrologists and
Coptic linguists who have studied the artifact
thus far say they are convinced by its
genuineness by the fading of the ink on the
papyrus fibers and the traces of ink adhered
to the bent fibers at the edges. The Coptic
grammar, handwriting and ideas represented in
the text would also have been nearly
impossible to forge.</div>
<div>"It's hard to construct a scenario that is
at all plausible in which somebody fakes
something like this. The world is not really
crawling with crooked papyrologists," Roger
Bagnall, director of the Institute for the
Study of the Ancient World, at New York
University, told the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Times</a>.</div>
<div>Certain lines of the text resemble snippets
from the Gospels of Thomas and Mary, both
believed to have been written in the late
second century and later translated into
Coptic. King surmises that this fragment is
also copied from a second-century Greek text.</div>
Further study will be needed to work out the
details, but the meaning of the words "my wife"
is beyond question, King said. The text beyond
"Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" is cut off.<wbr><wbr>--
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