<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Sure, I agree with that.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Andy Boyd <moscowrecycling@turbonet.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Paul Rumelhart' <godshatter@yahoo.com>; 'Ron Force' <rforce2003@yahoo.com>; 'Moscow Vision2020' <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:44 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Vision2020] Who Dat?<br> </font> </div> <br><meta
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--></style><div><div class="yiv884344656WordSection1"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Certainly there is a small kernel of truth to what you say but that kernel applies to all level of welfare including taxes and subsidies. </span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Do you agree with that?</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Andy Boyd</span></div></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Force; Moscow Vision2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Who Dat?</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">So that's a "no" on acknowledging that there is a problem with welfare (and other entitlement) fraud? I understand that everyone is having fun taking a swing at Romney,
which I couldn't care less about because I'm going to vote for Gary Johnson anyway, but why not admit that there is a small kernel of truth in there somewhere?<br><br>Paul</span></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> Ron
Force <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision2020 <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:20 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Who Dat?</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><br><br></span></div><div id="yiv884344656"><div><div><div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">By all means, let's hit those seniors mooching on $12K per year Social Security (average monthy benefit) and getting by tax free
.</span></div></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.hamiltonproject.org/papers/the_truth_about_taxes_just_about_everyone_pays_them/">http://www.hamiltonproject.org/papers/the_truth_about_taxes_just_about_everyone_pays_them/</a> </span></div></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">OR,</span></div></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">From Business
Insider:</span></div></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">The <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?DocID=3056"><span style="color:#1D637D;text-decoration:none;">chart below from the Tax Policy Center</span></a> shows the distribution of federal income taxes paid by income level in 2011.</span></div></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">It contains a number of interesting factoids, including the following:</span></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">7,000 people made more than $1 million but paid no income tax.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">22,000 people made between $500,000 and $1 million but paid no income tax.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">81,000 people made between $200,000 and $500,000 but paid no income tax.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">381,000 people made between $100,000 and $200,000 but paid no income tax.</span></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"
style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">So that's 491,000 Americans who made more than $100,000 a year who paid no income tax. (Clearly <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-comments-reveal-republican-party-2012-9"><span style="color:#1D637D;text-decoration:none;">dependent victims who refuse to take responsibility for their lives</span></a>!)</span></div></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Also:</span></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">45% of the country makes less than $30,000 per year.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">30% of the country makes less than $20,000 per year.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">15% of the country makes less than $10,000 per year.</span></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Also:</span></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">60 million of the 76 million Americans who pay no income tax make $30,000 or
less.</span></div><div style="margin-top:12.0pt;"><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Also:</span></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">25 million Americans make more than $100,000 per year—15% of the total.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">6.7 million Americans make more than $200,000 per year—4% of the total.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">1.3 million Americans make more than $500,000 per year—less than 1% of the total.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">433,000 Americans make more than $1 million per year—less than 0.2% of the total.</span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><br>Chart here:<br>Read more: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.businessinsider.com/7000-millionaires-paid-no-income-tax-2012-9#ixzz26rW1MJWr"><span style="color:#003399;text-decoration:none;">http://www.businessinsider.com/7000-millionaires-paid-no-income-tax-2012-9#ixzz26rW1MJWr</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA</span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Robert Dickow <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com">dickow@turbonet.com</a>>; "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:47 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Who Dat?</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div id="yiv884344656"><div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">While I think Romney is absurdly out of touch with anyone who doesn't make mid
6-figures at least, I don't dispute that, but can we all acknowledge that there are people out there that leach off the system in one way or another? They may not live in the Hamptons, and I realize they don't make up anywhere near the 47% that Romney quoted, but they do exist. And they ruin the system for everyone.<br><br>Paul</span></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", "sans-serif";color:black;"> Robert Dickow <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com">dickow@turbonet.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:52 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Who Dat?</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div id="yiv884344656"><div><div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:#1F497D;">It’s sad when it appears that some people (Mitt among them?) are wracked
with terror that most everybody who gets government help is on welfare so they can somehow scam the system, take advantage of it, or make their comfy livings by leveraging the welfare system. Funny, I have personally never seen that sort of thing happening, though I suppose it’s just a matter of odds that somebody out there is happy to just take their single mom government checks and then sit on the beach in Cancun sipping Margaritas all day, saving up to buy a big yacht without lifting a finger to improve their lot in life. The last person I saw paying for food with food stamps at Safeway certainly didn’t look like they were doing anything along those lines. So, are there any hard figures out there that demonstrate how many bona fide ‘leeches’ are among the U.S. government assistance recipients-- well-off, fat and sassy-- actively finagling the system so can *<b>avoid</b>* ever having to have a real job? Loaded question, I know. But hey, Mitt,
there might be a couple of people out there like that, ok…. that’s maybe just the cost of doing business.</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Frankly, the way things are going, I’m afraid that. being a musician and academic, I might be accused of being a burden to society.</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Bob Dickow, troublemaker</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]">[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Who Dat?</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Speeches/Who_Dat.mp3">http://www.tomandrodna.com/Speeches/Who_Dat.mp3</a></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">“Moscow Cares”</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/">http://www.moscowcares.com/</a></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Tom Hansen</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv884344656MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span
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