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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry, Donovan, I pretty vehemently disagree that it’s appropriate to use deadly force to defend mere property. I also disagree with the idea that it’s OK to take a gun to a fist fight. That misguided idea is what’s <b>killing</b> our youth.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Donovan Arnold<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> Wayne Price; Ron Force<br><b>Cc:</b> Moscow Vision2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>It isn't a matter of if someone is or isn't better off armed or not. It is a matter of human rights. Do you, and do all humans have the right to defend themselves from loss of life, limb and property and of those in their guardianship? I think so. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Donovan J. Arnold<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Wayne Price <<a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Ron Force <<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> Moscow Vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 5, 2012 6:55 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv316868302><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Ron,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>And do you want to bet that Reginald Denny wished he was armed or was he better off unarmed? <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>From TIME: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>"</span><span class=yiv316868302apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Taking a shortcut off the Santa Monica Freeway down Normandie Avenue was nothing out of the ordinary for 33-year-old Reginald Denny. In the late afternoon of April 29, 1992, he had simply loaded up his 18-wheeler and headed down the road, driving for his employer Transit Mixed Concrete. Little did he know that he would drive smack into the middle of an angry mob looking for vengeance. </span></span><span class=yiv316868302apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>As his rig crossed Florence, a group of rioters enraged over the Rodney King verdict rushed toward him, pulled him out of the cab and beat him to within an inch of his life. The attack ended when <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/la_riot/article/0,28804,1614117_1614084_1614510,00.html" target="_blank"><span style='color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'>Damian Monroe Williams</span></a> took a cinderblock and bashed Denny's skull, fracturing it in 91 places and causing severe brain damage."</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Wayne<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>On Sep 5, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Ron Force wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hmmmm, lets see... whats more likely to get you killed? Driving into a high crime area unarmed, or pulling out your six-shooter and playing Marshall Dillon with the bad guys. "Yes sir, this here cargo's so valuable, I'd give up my life for it." <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Stuff can be replaced (and it's probably insured). Lives can't.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Ron Force <<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>>; Moscow Vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 5, 2012 2:32 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv316868302><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Easy access to guns and limited access to mental health services don't mix. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>One complaint about gun laws right now is that commercial truck drivers, who live in their trucks, are banned from legally carrying any weapons for self defense. Many are also required for their job to drive into dangerous high crime areas with valuable cargo. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Donovan J. Arnold<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Ron Force <<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:08 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Second Amendment Remedy</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv316868302><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>From Knute Berger:</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>...Unfortunately, many pro-gun legislators in Oly are also pushing more and more to cut government funding. The result is an increasingly armed populace and fewer resources to identify and treat people who are mentally ill and potentially violent. Ian Stawicki, who shot down his fellow Café Racer regulars and the mom at Town Hall, was known to be mentally unbalanced by his family and friends, and he had a domestic violence record. Yet he was well armed and untreated.<br><br>A democracy needs an educated citizenry. An uninformed society, James Madison said, <a href="http://classicliberal.tripod.com/madison/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#336699;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'>leads to “farce or a tragedy.</span></a>” But a heavily armed democracy must also have a commitment to sanity and humanity. It does little good to say the mentally ill can’t own firearms if you can’t identify who they are, if you can’t disarm them and if you don’t have the resources to treat them.<br><br>Failing to follow through with sane policy also contributes to tragedy, as we’re learning the hard way. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://crosscut.com/2012/09/05/mossback/110281/seattle-shooting-ian-stawicki-gun-control/">http://crosscut.com/2012/09/05/mossback/110281/seattle-shooting-ian-stawicki-gun-control/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net/">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><br> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>