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I get your point Sue about prayers / non-believers, but IMO the Democrats should embrace diversity and should have a big enough tent to encompass believers as well as non-believers and simply make it clear that they champion freedom of religion without government interference as well as governing the people without enshrining Biblical law into secular law.  I'm not sure how damaging opening / closing prayers are to the non-believers, but I'd guess they're all over the map from some who cover their ears to others who simply play along and close their eyes to others who just give a blank stare through all of it.<div><br></div><div>Maybe some day we'll get to the point where only a very few Religious Fundies would not fall apart at the mere mention of 'Evolution' and that only a very few non-believers would not freak out at the mention of 'God'.  Until then, I'll still tease them both with those forbidden words :)</div><div><br></div><div>In God Some Trust!</div><div><br></div><div>-Scott<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: suehovey@moscow.com<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com; philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] absolutely unbelieveable.<br>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:03:02 -0700<br><br>

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<div>I don’t think so.  Political parties are not government entities and 
they aren’t funded by taxes.  The conventions are held in public buildings 
but I think they could argue “equal access” in this regard.  Tax funded 
protection services are used all the time for churches 
locally.    I think the more important question is, “why have 
prayers where there are groups who aren’t believers?”  That one isn’t going 
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<div>And maybe the RNC used the KOC just to ensure no women were allowed to take 
part.  Seems to follow their “war on women” theme for the election season. 
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<div style="font-color:black"><b>From:</b> <a title="scooterd408@hotmail.com" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">Scott Dredge</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:50 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision2020</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] absolutely 
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<div>This isn't at odds with the 1st Amendment, is it?  It's just a closing 
prayer at a DNC.  It just seems like an easy way to try and siphon some 
votes from the GOP. <br><br>-Scott</div>
<div><br>On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:41 PM, "Joe Campbell" <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>> 
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  <div>It is interesting, that in an age when the right to religious belief has 
  run amok, that this part of the 1st Amendment (the Establishment Clause) often 
  gets overlooked.<br><br>
  <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Rosemary Huskey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">What 
    happened to the separation of church and state?  
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    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Rose<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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    <p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> Ron Force 
    [mailto:<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 28, 
    2012 7:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rosemary Huskey; 'Moscow Vision2020'</span></p>
    <div class="ecxim"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] absolutely 
    unbelieveable.<u></u><u></u></div></div></div>
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Arial','sans-serif';font-size:14pt">Democrats, 
    too:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    <h1 style="line-height:27pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;overflow:visible;margin-right:0in"><span style="font-family:'Georgia','serif';color:#111111">Sister Simone 
    Campbell And Cardinal Timothy Dolan To Bless The Democratic 
    Convention<u></u><u></u></span></h1>
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    News Service</span></b><span style="font-family:'Helvetica','sans-serif';color:#999999;font-size:8.5pt">  
    |  By <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jahnabi-barooah" target="_blank"><span style="border-bottom:windowtext 1pt;border-left:windowtext 1pt;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in;padding-right:0in;color:#999999;border-top:windowtext 1pt;border-right:windowtext 1pt;text-decoration:none;padding-top:0in">David 
    Gibson</span></a> </span><span><span style="border-bottom:windowtext 1pt;border-left:windowtext 1pt;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in;padding-right:0in;font-family:'Helvetica','sans-serif';color:#999999;font-size:9pt;border-top:windowtext 1pt;border-right:windowtext 1pt;padding-top:0in">Posted: 
    08/28/2012 6:31 pm Updated: 08/28/2012 6:31 pm</span></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica','sans-serif';color:#999999;font-size:8.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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    YORK (RNS) In a move that could recast the reigning political narrative 
    about the Catholic bishops, Cardinal Timothy Dolan has accepted an 
    invitation to deliver the closing benediction at the Democratic National 
    Convention, a week after he gives a similar blessing to the Republicans in 
    Tampa, Fla.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    the start, Dolan, who is also president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic 
    Bishops, made it clear that he would be willing to pray at the Democratic 
    convention. There were doubts, however, that the Democrats would invite 
    Dolan.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    Obama campaign also revealed Tuesday (Aug. 28) that Sister Simone Campbell, 
    the popular face of the recent "Nuns on the Bus" tour for social justice, 
    will be addressing the Democrats in Charlotte, N.C., the night before 
    Dolan's appearance.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    is kind of a Catholic "two-fer" that threatens to upstage GOP nominee Mitt 
    Romney's Catholic outreach and highlights the importance of this swing vote 
    in a deadlocked race...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'Arial','sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'Arial','sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> Rosemary Huskey 
    <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Ron Force' 
    <<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>>; 'Moscow Vision2020' <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 
    28, 2012 5:05 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] absolutely 
    unbelieveable.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    kissing the bishop’s ring. . . how can Evangelical Republicans stand this 
    blatant pandering?   Remember how Repubs used to worry about John 
    Kennedy bringing Rome to Washington?  
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';font-size:11pt">Rose 
    Huskey</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron 
    Force<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Moscow 
    Vision2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] absolutely 
    unbelieveable.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div>
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    KOC:</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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    Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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    <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Rosemary Huskey 
    <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> viz <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 
    28, 2012 11:44 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] absolutely 
    unbelieveable.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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    WITHOUT a military honor guard to present the 
    colors?!?!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span>WHAT AN EFFING PILE OF 
    CRAP!!!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span>Who else is the GOP going 
    to disrespect?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span>Seeya round town, 
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span>"We're a town of about 
    23,000 with 10,000 college students.  The college students are not very 
    active in local elections (thank 
    goodness!)."<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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    <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span><br>On Aug 28, 2012, at 
    11:13 AM, "Rosemary Huskey" <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>> 
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      <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span>I am gobsmacked beyond 
      belief…..  even in my most cynical, sarcastic mood never would I have 
      imagined that the Republican Party would invite the Knights of Columbus – 
      with their silly plumed hats and swords to present the colors at the 
      opening of their convention this morning – followed by the worst tenor 
      ever heard straining out the National Anthem.  It is a rich satire 
      complete with audience shots of frumpy old white women decked out in a 
      super heavy application of pancake makeup and deep blue eye shadow.  
      I’m frightened!!!!!.  <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
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      <p style="background:white" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span>Rose 
      Huskey<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
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