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Oh - well they're not good friends of mine and Tom's behavior on the viz is quite abhorrent and most of his numerous posts are of very poor quality.  Is Tom some super sensitive guy who can dish it out but can't take it?  I'm not sure if Tom is aware of how foolish that he looks which is why I'm pointing this out.  Or is he aware, and he just can't help himself because that's just a gaping flaw in his personality?  I guess I'm just looking for some logical explanation because 'just leave it alone' doesn't really cut it for me when Tom continuously behaves like a bully.  Now if there is a logical explanation and it's one of those deeply personal issues of the type 'trust me, you don't want to know', then fine i don't need know all the details of what bad stuff happens to people to make them misbehave in certain ways.   Otherwise, when Tom posts rude things to the viz and personally attacks Paul and Gary and whoever else, I think it's fair to point out - especially to him - that his behavior is inappropriate for a supposed grown man.  And I've been off the viz for a while so if this has been pointed out to Tom many times and he 'just doesn't get it', then fine, I'll tone down bashing my head against the brick wall.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: donaldrose@cpcinternet.com<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com; donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com; moscowlocksmith@gmail.com; philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Best places near Moscow, ID<br>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:03:30 -0700<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Actually Tom and Rodna are dear friends.  So best leave it alone, Scott.  </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rose</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Scott Dredge [mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 24, 2012 10:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com; donaldrose@cpcinternet.com; moscowlocksmith@gmail.com; philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> viz<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Best places near Moscow, ID</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">And it's a good thing that most everyone can clearly see that Tom Hansen is monumentally immature, realizes that he'll never change since you can't teach an old dog new tricks, and most everyone just takes it all in stride. :)  Kudos to Gary!</span></p><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><hr id="ecxstopSpelling" size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:24:16 -0700<br>From: <a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>; <a href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Best places near Moscow, ID</span></p><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Excellent points, Rose! I think 99% of the people that post on the Viz are great people that really care about Moscow and other people. Their political beliefs usually are not an indicator of how they are as people. I have had some wonderful friends that were not anywhere near my political affiliations. It can be easy for a person that is passionate in their beliefs to overstep their civility when arguing a point they strongly believe. I think must not take it to heart when they make personal attacks, but accept that they are just strong believers in something. </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Donovan J. Arnold</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Rosemary Huskey <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Gary Crabtree' <<a href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>>; 'Joe Campbell' <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> 'Vision2020 discussions' <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 24, 2012 6:00 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Best places near Moscow, ID</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div id="ecxyiv1327349616"><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t think that anyone would imagine/describe as a wild eye defender of Gary.  I get it that he pokes for the sheer hell of it, and I don’t mind admitting that I’<span class="mark">ve</span> not above stunting myself on occasion (although I flatter myself that my causes are always righteous).  And, it is true that Gary and I (often I suspect for sheer cussedness on his side) battle on V2020.  Let’s face it, he does defend some mighty sorry jackasses.  That said, many years ago, when my granddaughter locked herself out of the home that she was taking care of for friends who were out of town, I knew that there was one person that could solve this problem for us.  Gary quickly responded to my call, and immediately sorted things out.  I was glad he was available, that he was professional, and that I could count on him.  And, in the long run, that’s a pretty fine thing to know about one of our V2020 peeps.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rose Huskey</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Crabtree<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 24, 2012 4:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joe Campbell<br><b>Cc:</b> Vision2020 discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Best places near Moscow, ID</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">it goes to my waistline</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">g</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">The real question is, How does it feel to be famous, Gary? </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Gary Crabtree <<a href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com">moscowlocksmith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">I think you've misjudged poor Mr.Hanson. I sure that his post is to indicate his amazement that the score isn't higher/ lower (which ever indicates a trend toward excellence) Thanks T, your high opinion of me means everything.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Continually striving to exceed (or at a minimum live up to) the lists low expectations,</span></p></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">g</span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Paul <span class="mark">Rumelhart</span> <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Sometimes, you can just feel the love around this place.<br><br>Paul</span></p></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Kenneth Marcy <<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com">kmmos1@frontier.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> Vision2020 discussions <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 24, 2012 3:55 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Best places near Moscow, ID</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span class="mark"><span style="color:black">Hmmm</span></span><span style="color:black">.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><div style="border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:4.0pt 8.0pt 4.0pt 8.0pt"><h2 style="background:#EEEEEE"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">32.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> <a href="http://www.bundle.com/merchant/detail/the-lock-shop-moscow-id-3477398/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0099FF;text-decoration:none">The Lock Shop</span></a></span><span style="color:black"></span></h2></div></div><div style="border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:4.0pt 8.0pt 4.0pt 8.0pt"><h2 style="background:#EEEEEE"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"></span></h2></div><div style="border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 8.0pt 8.0pt 8.0pt"><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div style="margin-bottom:4.8pt"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://www.bundle.com/merchant/search/?cats=repair&loc=83843" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:#0099FF;text-decoration:none">Repair</span></b></a>, <a href="http://www.bundle.com/merchant/search/?tags=subcat-locksmith&loc=83843" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:#0099FF;text-decoration:none">Locksmith</span></b></a></span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:4.8pt"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">227 E3rd St<br>Moscow, ID 83843<br>(208) 882-2330<br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#999999">0.34mi away</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div align="center"><table class="ecxMsoNormalTable" style="border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">BUNDLE SCORE</span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:3.75pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;color:black">1</span></b><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#999999"> / 100</span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div align="center"><table class="ecxMsoNormalTable" style="border-collapse:collapse" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">TYPICAL COST</span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="padding:3.75pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span style="font-size:24.0pt;color:black">$24</span></b></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:right;background:white" align="right"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Bundle Score Details »</span><span style="color:black"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span class="mark"><span style="color:black">Seeya</span></span><span style="color:black"> on the rebound, Moscow.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Tom Hansen</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Hamilton, Montana</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.  The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><br>On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Kenneth Marcy <<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com">kmmos1@frontier.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Here is a shortened version of  a URL from <a href="http://www.bundle.com/" target="_blank">http://www.bundle.com/</a>, a web-site that suggests it creates unbiased, data-driven ratings:<br><br><b><a href="http://tinyurl.com/9cqwz26" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/9cqwz26</a></b> <br><br>The URL yields a list of 301 "best places" within 4 miles of Moscow, ID.<br><br>You might find it an interesting browse.<br><br><br>Ken</span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>serving the communities of the <span class="mark">Palouse</span> since 1994.<br>              <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br>         <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><br>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>serving the communities of the <span class="mark">Palouse</span> since 1994.<br>              <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br>          <span class="mark">mailto</span>:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><br>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br> serving the communities of the <span class="mark">Palouse</span> since 1994.<br>               <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br>          <span class="mark">mailto</span>:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</span></p></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><br>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br> serving the communities of the <span class="mark">Palouse</span> since 1994.<br>               <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a><br>          <span class="mark">mailto</span>:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</span></p></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">=======================================================List services made available by First Step Internet,serving the communities of the <span class="mark">Palouse</span> since 1994.              <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net/</a>          <span class="mark">mailto</span>:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a>=======================================================</span></p></div></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>======================================================= List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <a href="http://www.fsr.net" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a> =======================================================</span></p></div></div></div></div>                                      </div></body>
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