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It's easy for students to follow their conscience and do the right thing because they're less likely to face political and / or financial repercussions that would otherwise force them to choose between what's in their own personal best interest or altruistically sacrificing most or all of it for the betterment of some other person or group. And, well, with people being what they are which is human / selfish / greedy / power hungry / desperate to placate their electorate so they can continue clinging on to their council seat, you get what you get which in effect is 'yes' men & women and ultimately 'mob rule'. And maybe I have it all wrong, and if so, maybe a council member or two might consider stepping up to the plate and posting to v2020 their version of 'the real story'.<br><br>Donavan - you can play the waiting game for all the old dogs to die off, but that can take a mighty long time and who's to say that the new guard isn't goose stepping to the same scripture that's been around for a few thousand years and continues justifying the enforcement of their bigotry and oppression? 90% of adult Americans were against mixed race marriage in 1948 when the evil 'activist' California State Supreme Court legalized it.<br><br>So the Moscow City Council can't adopt some simple language that calls for the protection of someone against being discriminated against on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation? If there is an official explanation as to 'why', I'd really love to see it. And just the cold, hard facts of a 5-1 vote defeating it does not provide any insight into the motivation of why not to protect a minority from a mob. BTW - who was the sole courageous soul who bucked the prevailing dogma?<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:27:12 -0700<br>From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State of the University of Idaho<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com; donaldrose@cpcinternet.com; v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm; rforce2003@yahoo.com; idahovandal1@live.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="right:auto"><span style="right:auto">The students at <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-0" class="mark">UI</span> voted an end to this kind of discrimination in 2003, and North Idaho College students in 2000. The nice thing is that most the bigots are older and fading away while the more open minded people are younger and coming into positions of power and influence.</span></div>
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<div style="right:auto"><span style="right:auto">When any of these <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-1"><span>council</span></span> members run for office again I am going to print up some <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-2"><span style="right:auto"><span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-1"><span>fliers</span></span></span></span> for them with the Dixie Flag in the background. </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Amazing. And it probably won't change any time soon. Even Micron added sexual orientation to their anti-discrimination policy after being beaten over the head by the shareholders (the owners of the company). And that was over 5 years ago.<br><br>http://www.deseretnews.com/article/660217122/Micron-adapts-policy-to-bar-anti-gay-bias.html?pg=all<br><br>Looks like Moscow is just frozen in time.<br><br>
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<div><span>Scott, that is OK. The Moscow City Council isn't up to date on anything either. Most the City Council members that voted against sexual orientation as being protected from discrimination will brag to you about their decision if you ask them. Their <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-0"><span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-0"><span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-0"><span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-0"><span>ridiculous</span></span></span></span></span> reasoning is that protecting someone from discrimination on <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-1">the</span> bases of gender identity and sexual <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-2"><span>orientation</span></span> is <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-3"><span>discrimination</span></span> against the majority. Which is very confusing to me because the vast majority of people I know have a gender identity and sexual orientation. But you know, stupidity and bigotry are usually <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-4"><span>synonymous</span></span>. </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Saundra. I wonder why it took so long for the geniuses in higher education to figure how to walk through the apparently egg shelled filled path toward equal benefits. What changed since 2008 when they cowardly side stepped the whole issue instead of just offering benefits already covered by the insurance carrier?<br><br>And sorry Donovan (and Saundra), I am not up to date on what's going on with the Moscow City Council. I saw something about a 5-1 vote against something seemingly gay rights related. Can you send me a link or a cut an paste <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-2" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-2" class="mark">online</span></span> or privately so I can blast them publicly too?<br><br>-Scott<br><br>
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<div><span>Good job by the Faculty Council! Now we just have to get rid of the bigoted policies of the Moscow City Council. Or get rid of the bigoted members of the city council.</span></div>
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<div><span>BTW. If anyone wants to claim me as their "other adult" to give me benefits I am open to that <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxyiv553461912ecxmisspell-0">invitation</span> <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-3" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-3" class="mark">LOL</span></span>. And I can be cute in right light at the right angle since I lost 75 lbs of ugly fat. J/K. </span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv400598938ecxyiv553461912ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Saundra <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-6" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-6" class="mark">Lund</span></span><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Scott Dredge'; rforce2003@yahoo.com; idahovandal1@live.com; 'viz'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] State of the University of Idaho</span></div></div></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv400598938ecxyiv553461912ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">In part, Scott wrote:</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv400598938ecxyiv553461912ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">“</span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">U of I does very little of these things. No bold aspirations and no guts in even doing the right thing such as extending benefits to domestic partners of their faculty.”</span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"></span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv400598938ecxyiv553461912ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Try to keep current, Scott </span><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">J</span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"></span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv400598938ecxyiv553461912ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Dredge<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>; <a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" rel="nofollow">idahovandal1@live.com</a>; viz<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] State of the University of
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even a self designation of 'flagship'. Bottom line is that you can still get a marketable degree from the U of I and you can still be gainfully employed on their payroll as well so it does serve a tremendously useful purpose for the citizens of the city of Moscow and the great state of Idaho. It is a functional institution that will be around long after I've dropped dead myself.<br><br>-Scott</span></div>
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to the events that sunk the Hoover administration. The developers walked away with their cut, and the University was left holding the bag.</span></div></div>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12pt;background:white" class="ecxyiv400598938ecxyiv553461912ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"Those are interesting observations, and they seem to be consistent with what I sense is going on at the U of I. <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-19" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-19" class="mark">Nellis</span></span> seems to be more of a caretaker president than one who is seriously pushing forward on anything. I understand I only see a very small snapshot of what is actually going on up there, but if that’s the snapshot I’m seeing it says something about the perception the school is getting down here."<br><br>"The “autopilot” characterization of the university is spot-on to me. Not going anywhere. Stayed. Static. Unchanging. I feel like the U of I has been on autopilot for a decade or more, and in the meantime it has substantially eroded its mantle and role in
higher education in this state. We have gone from being the undisputed leader to alarming irrelevance. We are letting others control the discussion of what our school is and what it means to the state. We are declining to show up for our own defense."<br><br>"I think another poster said awhile ago that the biggest tragedy about University Place was that it <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-20" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-20" class="mark">didn</span></span>’t get finished. As much as the whole University Place caused havoc for the school (from which the school has not yet recovered and may not ever), the vision was right while the execution was wrong. Hoover understood that if we <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-21" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-21" class="mark">didn</span></span>’t grow we would die. He understood that the new battle for higher education relevance in Idaho was taking place in the
Treasure Valley. He understood that if we <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-22" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-22" class="mark">didn</span></span>’t make the school prominent here we would lose exposure, then relevance, and then the school as we knew it. And that’s exactly what is happening. Ever since the project got halted and the U of I was crucified in the media for the financial aspects of it we have lost any semblance of leadership at the school that actually wants to move the U of I forward." <br><br> <br>"The biggest reason why this has happened over the last 10 years is that the culture of the school has just given up. There is no push from the base to move things forward, so the administration feels just fine not doing anything. Those of us who post on these message boards are not the true representatives of the Vandal base. No, the true representative of the Vandal base <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-23" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-23" class="mark">doesn</span></span>’t really think much about Vandal football or athletics or even what is going on in Moscow anymore. They live their lives, go about their daily affairs, and don’t really care about what is happening to the old <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-24" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-24" class="mark">alma</span></span> mater. The base <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-25" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-25" class="mark">isn</span></span>’t so much asleep as it has become the living extinct."<br> <br>"There is no push from the base, so there is no push from the leadership. The base <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-26" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-26" class="mark">doesn</span></span>’t care, so the leadership <span id="ecxyiv400598938ecxmisspell-27" class="ecxyiv400598938mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-27" class="mark">doesn</span></span>’t act. The battle is raging and our school is essentially not participating. There is no inspiration anymore." End of his post...... </span></div></div>
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