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Thanks Saundra. I wonder why it took so long for the geniuses in higher education to figure how to walk through the apparently egg shelled filled path toward equal benefits. What changed since 2008 when they cowardly side stepped the whole issue instead of just offering benefits already covered by the insurance carrier?<br><br>And sorry Donovan (and Saundra), I am not up to date on what's going on with the Moscow City Council. I saw something about a 5-1 vote against something seemingly gay rights related. Can you send me a link or a cut an paste online or privately so I can blast them publicly too?<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:28:26 -0700<br>From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State of the University of Idaho<br>To: donaldrose@cpcinternet.com; v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm; scooterd408@hotmail.com; rforce2003@yahoo.com; idahovandal1@live.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="right:auto"><span style="right:auto">Good job by the Faculty Council! Now we just have to get rid of the bigoted policies of the Moscow City Council. Or get rid of the bigoted members of the city council.</span></div>
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<div style="right:auto"><span style="right:auto">BTW. If anyone wants to claim me as their "other adult" to give me benefits I am open to that <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-0">invitation</span> LOL. And I can be cute in right light at the right angle since I lost 75 lbs of ugly fat. J/K. </span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">In part, Scott wrote:</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">“</span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">U of I does very little of these things. No bold aspirations and no guts in even doing the right thing such as extending benefits to domestic partners of their faculty.”</span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"></span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal">As a result of the University’s continued effort to provide world class benefits, exciting new additions will be rolling out for 2013. One of the highlights of the plan is the Other Eligible Adult policy. This policy allows adults who are financially interdependent and share a household to potentially qualify for health benefits. It may also cover the children of other qualified adult individuals in a household. Additional information on this change will be available in early October.</div>
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<div class="ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal">With spousal tuition benefits remaining unchanged, employees will now have the option of using a new 50 percent in-state tuition reduction benefit for one of their children beginning fall 2012. Contact the Benefits office if you would like additional information on this new tuition benefit available now.</div>
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<div class="ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Here’s a little more information from an email my dh received Wednesday from VP Ron Smith, :</span></div>
<div style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">“</span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#444444;font-size:10.5pt">As Kenton Bird, the new president of the Faculty Senate said, "By expanding health benefits to other qualified adult individuals in a household, we are providing an important benefit to our employees. Many of the University's peer institutions offer a similar benefit, so this will enable us to be competitive in the hiring of top-tier faculty and staff. At the same time, this action boosts the morale of current employees and demonstrates the University's commitment to fairness. The University Faculty was unanimous in support of the change when the policy was considered in April - a vote that prompted spontaneous and resounding applause."</span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"></span></div>
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will be around long after I've dropped dead myself.<br><br>-Scott</span></div>
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<div style="margin-bottom:12pt;background:white" class="ecxyiv623000981MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"Those are interesting observations, and they seem to be consistent with what I sense is going on at the U of I. Nellis seems to be more of a caretaker president than one who is seriously pushing forward on anything. I understand I only see a very small snapshot of what is actually going on up there, but if that’s the snapshot I’m seeing it says something about the perception the school is getting down here."<br><br>"The “autopilot” characterization of the university is spot-on to me. Not going anywhere. Stayed. Static. Unchanging. I feel like the U of I has been on autopilot for a decade or more, and in the meantime it has substantially eroded its mantle and role in higher education in this state. We have gone from being the undisputed leader to alarming irrelevance. We are letting
others control the discussion of what our school is and what it means to the state. We are declining to show up for our own defense."<br><br>"I think another poster said awhile ago that the biggest tragedy about University Place was that it didn’t get finished. As much as the whole University Place caused havoc for the school (from which the school has not yet recovered and may not ever), the vision was right while the execution was wrong. Hoover understood that if we didn’t grow we would die. He understood that the new battle for higher education relevance in Idaho was taking place in the Treasure Valley. He understood that if we didn’t make the school prominent here we would lose exposure, then relevance, and then the school as we knew it. And that’s exactly what is happening. Ever since the project got halted and the U of I was crucified in the media for the financial aspects of it we have lost any
semblance of leadership at the school that actually wants to move the U of I forward." <br><br> <br>"The biggest reason why this has happened over the last 10 years is that the culture of the school has just given up. There is no push from the base to move things forward, so the administration feels just fine not doing anything. Those of us who post on these message boards are not the true representatives of the Vandal base. No, the true representative of the Vandal base doesn’t really think much about Vandal football or athletics or even what is going on in Moscow anymore. They live their lives, go about their daily affairs, and don’t really care about what is happening to the old alma mater. The base isn’t so much asleep as it has become the living extinct."<br> <br>"There is no push from the base, so there is no push from the leadership. The base doesn’t care, so the leadership doesn’t
act. The battle is raging and our school is essentially not participating. There is no inspiration anymore." End of his post...... </span></div></div>
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