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<DIV>Just adding a bit....</DIV>
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<DIV>Quoting from last week’s Nation, here is what Cockburn had to say about the
National Review and other publications of its ilk, “I am glad the rights of
these horrible journals are guaranteed under the First Amendment, but I don’t
think they ‘keep the mainstream honest.’ To the contrary, these are exactly the
magazines that have helped corrupt the mass media and instruct them in the art
of telling lies. These magazines have not widened the debate, they have
narrowed it to leather-lunged condoning of reaction, both in politics and
culture.” </DIV>
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<DIV>And if someone will give me the answer to 1 down puzzle 3247, I will
greatly appreciate it. Got the answers today, but I have a few more I want
to solve before I go there. I just can’t figure that one out,
yet I think the answer should be obvious. </DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
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<DIV>Sue H</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ngier@uidaho.edu
href="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu">Gier, Nicholas</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:11 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=lfalen@turbonet.com
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A> ; <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A
title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] The recent death of two
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<P><FONT size=2>Hi Roger,<BR><BR>You dug a hole for yourself and now you are
digging it deeper! Please offer evidence and argument for your outrageous
claims about one of the nation's most respected progressive
magazines.<BR><BR>Nick<BR><BR>A society grows great when old men plant the seeds
of trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.<BR><BR>-Greek
proverb<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: lfalen [<A
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com</A>]<BR>Sent: Thu
8/16/2012 12:09 PM<BR>To: Gier, Nicholas; Sue Hovey; Sunil Ramalingam; vision
2020<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The recent death of two
leftists<BR><BR>Calling the Nation a left of center publication is putting it
mildly. It was founded in 1865 by abolitionists. Since 1900 it has become a far
left publication. It supported Pol Pot, Lenin, Stalin and Ho Chi Minh.
They denied cambodian and Soviet genocide. It had active communists as writers.
Being a former communist is another thing. Some of the original writers for
National Review were former communists. Cockburn was defiantly anti Israel, but
if you check him out on Google or Bing, you can come to no other conclusion but
that he was also anti-Semitic.<BR>Roger<BR>-----Original message-----<BR>From:
"Gier, Nicholas" ngier@uidaho.edu<BR>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:49:36
-0700<BR>To: "Sue Hovey" suehovey@moscow.com, "Sunil Ramalingam"
sunilramalingam@hotmail.com, "vision 2020" vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] The recent death of two leftists<BR><BR>> Roger,<BR>><BR>>
You obviously don't read much Alexander Cockburn. He was hired by the left
of center journal The Nation as a columnist and he proceeded to write articles
critical of every major writer on the Nation's staff. He also wrote
several columns against climate scientists. The uproar from readers was
dramatic, but he was not fired as a result.<BR>><BR>> Cockburn was
definitely his own man and owed allegiance to no other, especially political
parties.<BR>><BR>> And please, Roger, quit calling those who dare to speak
out against Israel as anti-Semites. That is simply beyond the
pale.<BR>><BR>> Nick<BR>><BR>> A society grows great when old men
plant the seeds of trees whose shade they know they shall never sit
in.<BR>><BR>> -Greek proverb<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com on behalf of Sue
Hovey<BR>> Sent: Thu 8/16/2012 12:21 AM<BR>> To: Sunil Ramalingam; vision
2020<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The recent death of two leftists<BR>>
<BR>> And neither was William Raspberry a liberal. The National Review
might define him as one, but, speaking for myself only, this liberal found him
arrogant. Case in point...his final line in the article about Jim
Comer. Now there's a truly intelligent, compassionate liberal. If
one really wants to know James Comer, in his book Maggie's American Dream, he
tells of his mother and her place in the forming of his educational
philosophy. Nice book, wonderful man. <BR>><BR>> Sue
Hovey<BR>><BR>> From: Sunil Ramalingam<BR>> Sent: Sunday, August 12,
2012 3:57 PM<BR>> To: vision 2020<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The
recent death of two leftists<BR>><BR>> I thoroughly disagree with your
assessment of Cockburn, Roger. I think it's nonsense and utterly
meaningless. How often did you read him?<BR>><BR>> I looked forward to his
Friday Counterpunch columns and will miss his brave writing.<BR>><BR>>
Sunil<BR>><BR>><BR>> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:53:14 -0700<BR>>
> From: lfalen@turbonet.com<BR>> > To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>
> Subject: [Vision2020] The recent death of two leftists<BR>> ><BR>>
> William Raspberry wrote with decency; a liberal, he was fair, and
independent. Dead at 76. He said " I grew up in apartheid, and yet it never
induced my parents to teach us anything else than that we were responsible for
0ur own behavior, for our own minds.<BR>> ><BR>> > AlexanderCockburn
He was pro-Communist, a Stalin apologist and an anti-Semite. A scoundrel. Dead
at 71<BR>> ><BR>> > Source- National Review<BR>> ><BR>>
> Roger<BR>> ><BR>> >
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