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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/12/2012 6:21 PM, Paul Rumelhart
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/12/2012 03:34 PM, Kenneth Marcy
wrote:<br>
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Training is one thing. Fear and psychological instabilities are
another. If someone is so scared of indeterminate bad guys,
bogey men, and actual neighborhood criminals, why are not these
fears, and why are not these neighborhood criminals being
addressed as the causes of the fears, rather than issuing an
inexpensive legal placebo in the form of a long-term concealed
carry permit?<br>
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Do you use seat belts?</blockquote>
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Yes.<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50285689.6040502@yahoo.com" type="cite">If so,
do you do it because you are afraid of getting in an accident?</blockquote>
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No. I am a careful driver because I don't want to be in an accident.
I wear a seat belt because in WA state not wearing a seat belt is a
primary offense with a $124 fine for a first violation, even though
in Idaho it is a secondary offense (another violation must have been
officer-observed) with a $10 fine. <br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50285689.6040502@yahoo.com" type="cite">I
would say that I wear them because I'd like more options open when
I've been in a collision.</blockquote>
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Yes, seat belts worn during a collision may give you to exercise
actions after a collision because you may still be alive after the
collision, whereas had you not worn the belts, you might not be able
to do any actions after the collision because you might be seriously
injured or dead. <br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50285689.6040502@yahoo.com" type="cite">Seat
belts help keep you centered where the steering wheel and other
controls are so that you have more options during the accident.<br>
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As a practical matter, most accidents happen so quickly that nothing
gives more options during the collision; a person simply can not
think and act with sub-second response times. After a collision,
having retained your life, seat belts won't give any more options
because at that point they have completed their restraining job. The
belts themselves have no more options to grant.<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50285689.6040502@yahoo.com" type="cite"> I've
been thinking about getting a conceal carry permit, not because I
fear that shifty-eyed fellow down the block, but because it can be
a handy tool to have around if something unexpected happens and
you're stuck between a rock and a hard place.</blockquote>
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If you're stuck between a rock and a hard place, it may be the case
that a more appropriate tool would be a lever with which the rock
might be moved. Just venting frustrations at the rock by blazing
away at it with a firearm may not be as optimally productive as
working with tools more appropriate for resolving the real problem.<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50285689.6040502@yahoo.com" type="cite">More
options, in a situation where they dwindle rapidly. Thus, a
narrow-focused permit would do me no good. It would be like
having to pay to activate your seat belt harnesses for a short
period of time, only when you think you might be driving somewhere
unsafe.<br>
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More options suggests more solution strategies with a greater number
of implementation methodologies. As one works through various
solution possibilities, one after another failing, one would hope
that the solution of last resort is not simply to shoot with
frustration at what ever unresolved problem remains vexing.<br>
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Don't confuse shortness of available solution time with a small
number of solutions. Only one correct solution is necessary; it is
the one that must be accomplished within the limited time available.<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50285689.6040502@yahoo.com" type="cite">
Nobody expects the unexpected. Therefore, you don't know when you
might need to rely on your weapon (or your seat belt) to survive.<br>
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A seat belt is required by law to be used to minimize various costs
to society that likely otherwise would occur if seat belts were not
used. Firearms are not required by law to be used because usually
they cause significant harm in situations where alternative problem
solutions methods, were they thoughtfully applied, might achieve an
equal or better solution without the various damages weapons use may
bring to primary and secondary victims, and the society within which
they live.<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:50285689.6040502@yahoo.com" type="cite"> The
hope would be that I would end up wasting all the money spent on
conceal carry permits because I had never ran into any kind of
situation where it was needed.<br>
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Comparing the firearms milieu with insurance coverage is problematic
in that firearms are preventative only when other people or entities
choose not to act, whereas insurance provides benefits after bad
actions have occurred. The situations are different, and only
problematically comparable. Insured by Smith & Wesson is a
bumper sticker, not a risk management technique.<br>
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Ken<br>
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