Another part of this issue is the gross inaccuracy of most pistol/revolver shooters.  It takes a great deal of training and constant practice in order to shoot accurately.  Even LE officers who have mandatory practice often miss at close range.<br>
<br>The causal gun owner is not likely to hit the intended target even only a few feet away.<br><br>w.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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      I wasn't suggesting that we arm our children in schools.  It was
      just a "what if" scenario.  Not a suggestion for legislation. 
      Don't people around here wonder about things anymore?<br>
      <br>
      And you're right, I misremembered.  I do remember now hearing
      about this when it all went down.  I'm of the opinion that it was
      a stupid thing for him to do.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
      <br>
      Paul</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
      <br>
      On 08/11/2012 12:10 PM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="ltr">
        Paul,<br>
        <br>
        Your understanding is wrong. After watching the first three Die
        Hard movies (no, I'm not making this up,
        <a href="http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=193777" target="_blank">http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=193777</a>)<br>
        <br>
         He got shot and had to be rescued by someone else.<br>
        <br>
        I'm not against concealed permits, but I think that if there had
        been a shootout in Aurora, the 'rescuers' would have likely shot
        people themselves. And seriously, you think it's a good idea for
        high school students to be smuggling guns onto campus in case of
        possible massacres?<br>
        <br>
        Sunil<br>
        <br>
        <div>
          <hr>Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:50:27 -0700<br>
          From: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
          To: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>
          CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is
          Promoting . . .<br>
          <br>
          <div><br>
            It's my understanding that he grabbed a gun and headed in
            that direction and was told to go back home.  For good
            reason, since that's exactly the wrong way to behave when
            you are carrying.  Using your weapon should be a last
            resort, such as when you are pinned down in a movie theater
            by an armed assailant.  Even then, you still need to think
            about whether or not you have a clear line of sight and
            where your bullet is likely to go.<br>
            <br>
            Paul<br>
            <br>
            On 08/11/2012 08:38 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:<br>
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            <div>Yes some idiot student ran out with a gun. I think he
              got shot. Ask the police what they thought of that. Joe<br>
              <br>
              <br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
              On Aug 11, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target="_blank">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>>

              wrote:<br>
              <br>
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              <div>
                <div style="text-align:left">It's hard to think of
                  something more foolish than someone or ones with a
                  hand gun in a disorganized, panicky crowd trying to
                  shoot a person with a automatic weapon shielded by
                  body armor.  How many more victims would be added to
                  the final body count?<br>
                  <br>
                  Didn't something like this happen in the Moscow
                  Massacre?<br>
                  <br>
                  w.<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div>On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 7:02
                  AM, Donovan Arnold <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div><span>Tom,</span></div>
                        <div><span></span> </div>
                        <div><span>While your wife if shopping
                            Tri-State, you should be to. I mean come on,
                            support your community why don't you. :) </span></div>
                        <div><span></span> </div>
                        <div><span>Donovan J. Arnold</span></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">
                          <div style="font-family:times new roman,new\00000d\00000a\000020york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
                            <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial">
                                <div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                                  Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                  Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>>

                                  <br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                                  "<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>"

                                  <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>

                                  <br>
                                </div>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                Friday, August 10, 2012 6:47 PM
                                <div><br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                  Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What
                                  Tri-State is Promoting . . .<br>
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                              </font></div>
                            <br>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>You may very well be right,
                                      Sunil.  </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>It's just a habit I have
                                      acquired while in the service.
                                       Trust those around you, but keep
                                      your powder dry.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I saw the poster at Tri-State.
                                       And, as I've said before, this is
                                      the first time I have seen such an
                                      advertisement in Moscow.  I
                                      checked a few things out, such as
                                      its website, phone number, etc.
                                      etc. etc. (Hey, I needed something
                                      to pass the time while my wife was
                                      shopping at Tri-State).</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>The more I dug, the more red
                                      flags I found.  The more red flags
                                      I found, the more I dug.  I have
                                      so many info sources, concerning
                                      the NFT Academy, bookmarked for
                                      reference I am thinking of
                                      discarding half of 'em.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      <div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Tom Hansen</div>
                                      <div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>"We're a town of about 23,000
                                        with 10,000 college students.
                                         The college students are not
                                        very active in local elections
                                        (thank goodness!)."</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>- Dale Courtney (March 28,
                                        2007)</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Sunil
                                      Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>>

                                      wrote:<br>
                                      <br>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote>
                                    <div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>I've taken
                                          such a class and in the past
                                          had a concealed weapon permit;
                                          who knows, I may again. I
                                          don't think this class is a
                                          big deal.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Sunil <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div> </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
                                            Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012
                                            17:41:58 -0700<br>
                                            To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                                            Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
                                            [more] Look See What
                                            Tri-State is Promoting . . .<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div style="font-size:medium">The

                                                  primary reason this
                                                  caught my eye . . .</div>
                                                <div style="font-size:medium"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div style="font-size:medium">I
                                                  have lived here in
                                                  Moscow for just over
                                                  twenty years.  The is
                                                  the FIRST time I have
                                                  seen concealed-weapon
                                                  classes openly
                                                  advertised in town.
                                                   Couple that up with
                                                  the increasing
                                                  paranoia, as a result
                                                  of the recent
                                                  instances in Aurora
                                                  (Colorado) and
                                                  Milwaukee (Wisconsin),
                                                  and I feel I have a
                                                  right to be curious.</div>
                                                <div style="font-size:medium"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div style="font-size:medium">BTW,

                                                  the NFT Academy
                                                  website has only been
                                                  in existence since
                                                  April 2012 and was not
                                                  publicly released
                                                  until June 12, 2012
                                                  (TWO MONTHS AGO).</div>
                                                <br>
                                                <a href="http://fiddlerstudios.com/created-by-fs/announcing-the-national-firearms-training-academy-website/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fiddlerstudios.com/created-by-fs/announcing-the-national-firearms-training-academy-website/</a></div>

                                              <div> 
                                                <div>I have more info to
                                                  share, concerning the
                                                  NFT Academy and its
                                                  website, but let's see
                                                  where this thread
                                                  leads.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Seeya round town,
                                                  Moscow.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Tom Hansen</div>
                                                <div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>"We're a town of
                                                  about 23,000 with
                                                  10,000 college
                                                  students.  The college
                                                  students are not very
                                                  active in local
                                                  elections (thank
                                                  goodness!)."</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>- Dale Courtney
                                                  (March 28, 2007)</div>
                                                <div> </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div><br>
                                                On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:09
                                                PM, Sunil Ramalingam
                                                <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>>

                                                wrote:<br>
                                                <br>
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                                            </div>
                                          </div>
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                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>Something

                                                    legal? The nerve!
                                                    Next they'll be
                                                    selling guns!<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Sunil <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
                                                    Date: Fri, 10 Aug
                                                    2012 14:24:56 -0700<br>
                                                    To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                                                    Subject:
                                                    [Vision2020] Look
                                                    See What Tri-State
                                                    is Promoting . . .<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <pre> 
 
Seeya round town, Moscow.
 
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
 
"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.  The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

 
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
 
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