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Spot on Donovan with the exception about<span style="right:auto"> 'Dale has made a bigger mark on the world than you have or me</span>'. This all depends on how you define 'mark on the world'. :) And Dale has put some decent amount of effort trying to erase his marks and now he's gone quiet which, as the saying goes, 'speaks volumes'.<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:00:18 -0700<br>From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (Correction) Joel Courtney and Dale Courtney<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com; donaldrose@cpcinternet.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br><br><div style="color:;background-color:;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="right:auto"><span style="right:auto">Scott,</span></div>
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<div style="background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;right:auto"><span style="right:auto">Dale's ideas are shared by many. I don't agree with them, as I am sure many don't. But how can we identify, solidify, and articulate our ideas if we don't have a counter point? This is how humans evolve and progress socially and politically. There is a reason why Republicans and Democrats both exist. Some people are right minded and some are left minded. </span></div>
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<div style="right:auto"><span style="right:auto">I think you, Scott, weaken your points when you personally attack Dale or <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-0"><span>publicly</span></span> announce you a<span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-1">re</span> better than him intellectually or morally. I think if your arguments are strong, and your behavior ethical, these actions will speak for themselves. So far, I think Dale has made a bigger mark on the world than you have or me. Even if we <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-2"><span>don't</span></span>' agree with his political <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-3"><span>opinions</span></span>. I don't claim superior high ground over anyone. Nor do I claim to the be smartest, or my opinions are better then others. I only claim I am not like most people and my opinions are as <span style="right:auto" id="ecxmisspell-0"><span>valid</span></span> as anyone else. Sometimes they are
strong viewpoints, sometimes they are not. I understand I am not always right and that is how I grow and mature as a person. </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes he was honest in his <span id="ecxmisspell-1" class="mark">mis</span>-guided beliefs that people should have their wages slashed (even minimum wage should be $0 in his opinion), their benefits denied (same sex couples and their children), their rights taken away (abortion) - just to name a few. And I got a kick when he often lamented about Moscow being recession proof because of the U of I (corporations and businesses were slashing jobs at the same time the U of I was hiring). I could go on all day about this stuff, but I'm guessing you saw the same wacky stuff that he posted and pushed as I did. At this point, I claim an insurmountable higher moral ground over Dale since I'm still posting my no-nonsense and irrefutable opinions that is basically everyone should have equal rights and equal opportunities, and he's been silenced even though I wish he was still regularly making a fool of himself for all to see. Let me know if you
find an active renamed incarnation of his now shuttered site.<br><br>Money talks and bullshit walks.<br><br>-Scott<br><br>
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<div style="background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px"><span><font size="2">I don't think Dale was aiming to convert you. I think he was attempting to articulate his viewpoints and help persuade those on the fence about certain issues. The website, or one very much like it, will pop up somewhere, maybe even run by Dale under a different name. <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-0">One thing</span> is certain though, Dale was honest in his beliefs. I don't think that is true about many of the pundits on TV. Many of them just say outrageous things to stir people and get the network ratings up. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm disappointed not only that right-mind.us was taken down, but that almost all trace of it has been completely erased from the <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-0" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-2" class="mark">internet</span></span>. I found it to be enormously entertaining and I liked commenting on Dale's posts and running circles around him which was easy to do because his positions were logically and legally indefensible. I was shocked last year when I tried to post a comment and got an error message to the effect of 'user banned' and then shortly after that the site vanished. When I went searching for any trace of Dale, I hit on a <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-1" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-3" class="mark">wikipedia</span></span> entry for the movie Super 8 and that was my 'aha moment' where it all made sense to me. I always knew Dale was completely <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-2" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-4" class="mark">mis</span></span>-guided, but he definitely is quite intelligent so I'm not surprised one bit (though a little impressed) that he wiped all traces of his mostly reprehensible posts off the <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-3" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-5" class="mark">internet</span></span>.<br><br>And as for the comment that 'Dale was a powerful persuasive voice for conservative', I think that the jury is out on that one. For the most part, he was just preaching to conservative choir. I never really did believe that right-mind.us was Idaho's #1 Influential Blog. He didn't influence much of anything save for providing lots of chuckles, a few guffaws, and the occasional 'do some so-called conservatives actually believe this crap?'<br><br>-Scott<br><br><br>
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<div><span><span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxmisspell-0"><span>Y'all</span></span>, it was not the intention of my last email to come across as saying that Rose didn't like Moscow. Her work in the community is testament enough that she loves and respects the City, and has made it a better place because of it. I have nothing but the greatest respect for Rose <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-4" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-6" class="mark">Huskey</span></span>. </span></div>
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<div><span>I have no problem saying, "Good job, Joel Courtney!" He shouldn't be denied that public recognition simply because he is 16 instead of 18. We do it for the teen that scored a touch down in high school football. We ought to be able to do it for all real successes of teenagers in our community that do good things, not just sports.</span></div>
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<div style="background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px"><span><font size="2">The following statement is the same as mentioning him by name because it <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285misspell-0"><span>unmistakeably</span></span> <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285misspell-1"><span>specifically</span></span> <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285misspell-2"><span>identifies</span></span> him;</font></span></div>
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<div><span><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"><i><font size="2">"Dale has been strangely quiet since his son became a movie star. By a curious coincidence the “Right Mind” website was been removed around the time that Super 8 was released."</font></i></span></span></div>
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<div><span>I also disagree that Moscow is "Dodge". It is a great place, a real destination in its own right. I hope he stays, raises his family, and makes the deep connections with the <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285misspell-3"><span>awesome</span></span> Moscow community. He would be an <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285misspell-4"><span>incredible</span></span> addition to an already great city. Southern California is the place I hope he doesn't end up. </span></div>
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<div><span>I don't believe by mentioning the talents of others in Hollywood, such as talent searcher, agents, and producers that created a movie and found him <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285misspell-0"><span>diminishes</span></span> the fact that he is highly talented and succeeded because of it. </span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:11pt">I am delighted that Dale’s son (who I do not name as he is a minor and bears no responsibility for his father’s conduct) can get out of Dodge and do something that he clearly enjoys and shows genuine skill in doing. I have never questioned Dale’s parenting ability – indeed, I have every reason to believe that </span>he is<span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:11pt"> a good father who loves and cares for his children. That said, I am really truly delighted that he has taken Right Mind – which in my opinion should have been called “Out Of My Mind” - down. I don’t think liberals should make any claim on young Courtney’s success. He earned that through his own talent and diligence – but it is to be hoped that he will learn from firsthand experience all the propaganda and hateful
rhetoric he has heard about the “<span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-7" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-9" class="mark">Intoleristas</span></span>,” for example, just <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-8" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-10" class="mark">isn</span></span>’t true. And short of hanging out with freaks like Mel Gibson, he probably has learned that <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-9" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-11" class="mark">Braveheart</span></span> is really not good history, and not very many folks admire the Confederacy or the traitors who organized it.</span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rosemary <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-10" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-12" class="mark">Huskey</span></span>; 'Scott Dredge'; 'viz'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Joel Courtney and Dale Courtney</span></div></div></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">I think it is cool that Dale's son is a movie star. It is nice to see people be successful, even if I may disagree with their parent's political leanings. Dale, regardless of some people's feelings about him, obviously did a good job raising his son. I don't think it is strange that Dale is not as vocal, he wants his son to be successful as any parent does. I would be more concerned if Dale was not concerned about crushing his son's future. If <i>Right-Mind</i> is not as active, this is a another good thing that resulted from his son's success. Dale was a powerful intelligent persuasive voice for conservatives, of which they have few. </span></div></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:black;font-size:10pt">I wish nothing but the best of success for Joel Courtney. Another Moscow boy made good. I look forward to enjoying his future performances as I did with <i>Super 8</i>. </span></div></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> Rosemary <span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-11" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-13" class="mark">Huskey</span></span> <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" rel="nofollow">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Scott Dredge' <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>>; 'viz' <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 9, 2012 1:54 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Bryan Fischer Defends Call For 'Underground Railroad' Abduction Of Children From Gay
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<div class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Dale has been strangely quiet since his son became a movie star. By a curious coincidence the “Right Mind” website was been removed around the time that Super 8 was released. It certainly says worlds about his commitment to right-wing politics, <span class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285mark"><span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-12" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-14" class="mark">doesn</span></span></span>’t it? Imagine what a link to old <span class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285mark"><span id="ecxyiv1208357973ecxmisspell-13" class="ecxyiv1208357973mark"><span id="ecxmisspell-15" class="mark">Massa</span></span></span> Dog Wilson would do for him – talk about bad publicity…. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t imagine that a religious allegiance to a sect that
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<div class="ecxyiv1208357973ecxyiv1165547271ecxyiv677944285MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Dredge<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> viz<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Bryan Fischer Defends Call For 'Underground Railroad' Abduction Of Children From Gay Parents</span></div></div></div></div>
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