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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>The shot pattern of a short barreled,
cylinder bore defensive shotgun at across the room distances (12 to 14
feet) is about 5 inches. Across the apartment distances (8 to 10 feet) the
pattern tightens to about the diameter of a coke can and at point blank is as
big around as a quarter. Missing is always an option. Throw in the Mexican
rot gut and the folks who need to be the most worried are those watching the
game with you. The notion that you can't miss with a scatter gun is foolish
nonsense.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=art.deco.studios@gmail.com
href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is
Promoting . . .</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Wayne -</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>That's why my weapon of choice for home security is a 12-gauge
shotgun.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I can be sitting at home, watching football, drinking Coronas all
afternoon, blow a .28 on a BAT, and still hit the target.<BR><BR>
<DIV>Seeya round town, Moscow.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
college students are not very active in local elections (thank
goodness!)."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Aug 11, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Art Deco <<A
href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Another part of this issue is the gross inaccuracy of most
pistol/revolver shooters. It takes a great deal of training and constant
practice in order to shoot accurately. Even LE officers who have
mandatory practice often miss at close range.<BR><BR>The causal gun owner is
not likely to hit the intended target even only a few feet
away.<BR><BR>w.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Paul Rumelhart <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</A></A>></SPAN>
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<DIV><BR>I wasn't suggesting that we arm our children in schools. It
was just a "what if" scenario. Not a suggestion for legislation.
Don't people around here wonder about things anymore?<BR><BR>And you're
right, I misremembered. I do remember now hearing about this when it
all went down. I'm of the opinion that it was a stupid thing for him
to do.<SPAN class=HOEnZb><FONT color=#888888><BR><BR>Paul</FONT></SPAN>
<DIV>
<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>On 08/11/2012 12:10 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Paul,<BR><BR>Your understanding is wrong. After watching the
first three Die Hard movies (no, I'm not making this up, <A
href="http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=193777"
target=_blank><A
href="http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=193777">http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=193777</A></A>)<BR><BR> He
got shot and had to be rescued by someone else.<BR><BR>I'm not against
concealed permits, but I think that if there had been a shootout in
Aurora, the 'rescuers' would have likely shot people themselves. And
seriously, you think it's a good idea for high school students to be
smuggling guns onto campus in case of possible
massacres?<BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>
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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:50:27 -0700<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</A></A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A></A><BR>CC:
<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .<BR><BR>
<DIV><BR>It's my understanding that he grabbed a gun and headed in that
direction and was told to go back home. For good reason, since
that's exactly the wrong way to behave when you are carrying. Using
your weapon should be a last resort, such as when you are pinned down in a
movie theater by an armed assailant. Even then, you still need to
think about whether or not you have a clear line of sight and where your
bullet is likely to go.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On 08/11/2012 08:38 AM, Joe
Campbell wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Yes some idiot student ran out with a gun. I think he got shot. Ask
the police what they thought of that. Joe<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Aug 11, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Art Deco <<A
href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</A></A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">It's hard to think of something more
foolish than someone or ones with a hand gun in a disorganized,
panicky crowd trying to shoot a person with a automatic weapon
shielded by body armor. How many more victims would be added to
the final body count?<BR><BR>Didn't something like this happen in the
Moscow Massacre?<BR><BR>w.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Donovan Arnold <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
target=_blank><A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A></A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN>Tom,</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>While your wife if shopping Tri-State, you should be to.
I mean come on, support your community why don't you.
:) </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Donovan J. Arnold</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Tom
Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Sunil Ramalingam <<A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A></A>>
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> "<<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>>"
<<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>>
<BR></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Friday, August 10, 2012 6:47 PM
<DIV><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . .
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<DIV>You may very well be right, Sunil. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>It's just a habit I have acquired while in the service.
Trust those around you, but keep your powder dry.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I saw the poster at Tri-State. And, as I've said before,
this is the first time I have seen such an advertisement in Moscow.
I checked a few things out, such as its website, phone number,
etc. etc. etc. (Hey, I needed something to pass the time while my
wife was shopping at Tri-State).</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The more I dug, the more red flags I found. The more red
flags I found, the more I dug. I have so many info sources,
concerning the NFT Academy, bookmarked for reference I am thinking
of discarding half of 'em.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>Seeya round town, Moscow.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.
The college students are not very active in local elections
(thank goodness!)."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Sunil Ramalingam <<A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A></A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I've taken such a class and in the past had a concealed
weapon permit; who knows, I may again. I don't think this class is
a big deal.<BR><BR>Sunil <BR><BR>
<DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>From: <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A><BR>Date:
Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:41:58 -0700<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . .
.<BR><BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: medium">The primary reason this caught my
eye . . .</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: medium"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: medium">I have lived here in Moscow for
just over twenty years. The is the FIRST time I have seen
concealed-weapon classes openly advertised in town. Couple
that up with the increasing paranoia, as a result of the recent
instances in Aurora (Colorado) and Milwaukee (Wisconsin), and I
feel I have a right to be curious.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: medium"><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: medium">BTW, the NFT Academy website has
only been in existence since April 2012 and was not publicly
released until June 12, 2012 (TWO MONTHS AGO).</DIV><BR><A
href="http://fiddlerstudios.com/created-by-fs/announcing-the-national-firearms-training-academy-website/"
rel=nofollow target=_blank><A
href="http://fiddlerstudios.com/created-by-fs/announcing-the-national-firearms-training-academy-website/">http://fiddlerstudios.com/created-by-fs/announcing-the-national-firearms-training-academy-website/</A></A></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>I have more info to share, concerning the NFT Academy and its
website, but let's see where this thread leads.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Seeya round town, Moscow.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.
The college students are not very active in local elections
(thank goodness!)."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Something legal? The nerve! Next they'll be selling
guns!<BR><BR>Sunil <BR><BR>From: <A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A><BR>Date:
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Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
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