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I might have a job for you Joe. My brother-in-law is getting married in September in Lewiston and his fiance just posted this on Facebook 8 hours ago:<br><br><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1,"tn":"K"}"> <font style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{"type":3}">Well
everything is coming along good for the wedding, but we need to find
someone to marry us. Does anyone know a anyone we could ask, we arent
apart of any church, but i dont know any ministers or pastors that will
do it without being part of the church, we are will pay. Any
suggestions? Thanks in advance!</span></font></h6><span class="uiStreamFooter"><span class="UIActionLinks UIActionLinks_bottom fbd-upd" data-ft="{"tn":"=","type":20}"><button class="like_link stat_elem as_link" title="Like this item" type="submit" name="like" data-ft="{"tn":">","type":22}"><span class="default_message">Like</span></button> · <button name="dislike" rel="472932452718627" type="submit" title="Dislike" class="dislike_link as_link"><span class="default_message">Dislike</span></button> · <label class="uiLinkButton comment_link" title="Leave a comment"></label> · </span><span class="uiStreamSource" data-ft="{"type":26,"tn":"N"}"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/courtney.kidder1/posts/472932452718627"><abbr title="Tuesday, July 17, 2012 at 2:03pm" data-utime="1342559000" class="timestamp livetimestamp">8 hours ago</abbr></a> via <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mobile/?v=web">mobile</a></span> · </span><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><br>Note that this is a ho-hum opposite sex wedding. I was really hoping that they would move their wedding later out in the month to Saturday September 22 at night so I could catch the Idaho / Wyoming football game when I come to town. But the two of them tend to not give me the time of day, so I think they're just going to do what's in their own selfish interest. :)<br><br>-Scott<br><br><br>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:52:20 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same sex marriage<br>> From: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>> To: scooterd408@hotmail.com<br>> CC: godshatter@yahoo.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> <br>> Good post. I'm sorry but I'm in a "philosophical" mood, so I've got to<br>> challenge everything.<br>> <br>> Is there anyone who thinks that "churches should be forced to perform<br>> same sex weddings against their beliefs"? Suppose you want to get<br>> married by a Catholic priest. I image that one might accommodate you.<br>> But does that force anything upon the Catholic Church?<br>> <br>> As I said, I have performed marriages and I'm willing to do it again<br>> (just contact me if you're interested). And if you'd like a religious<br>> ceremony, I can accommodate. But I'd hate to think that by doing so,<br>> I'd be forcing any particular church to do anything; I'd hate to think<br>> that my actions had anything to do with any particular church at all,<br>> even the church of which I am (through my online degree) a minister.<br>> Joe<br>> <br>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Thanks for the response anyway Paul - I was really hoping you could just try<br>> > your best to take the indefensible side of keeping same sex marriage bans in<br>> > place. I've racked my brain trying to think of even a single solitary -<br>> > even a stretch - of a reason to continue denying same sex couples and<br>> > families with same sex parents equal rights / benefits / protections of<br>> > married couples and I continue to just come up blank so I'm disappointed<br>> > that no one could step forward and enlighten me.<br>> ><br>> > In short, can anyone explain why same couples don't deserve to be as equally<br>> > miserable as married couples? Also, for folks who are bent out of shape<br>> > about homo sex, the best way to get people to completely stop having sex<br>> > would be to encourage them to get married. Thus, same sex marriage is a win<br>> > for everyone although I don't believe that churches should be forced to<br>> > perform same sex weddings against their beliefs.<br>> ><br>> > -Scott<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ________________________________<br>> > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:22:20 -0700<br>> > From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>> > To: scooterd408@hotmail.com<br>> > CC: kmmos1@frontier.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same sex marriage<br>> ><br>> > On 07/15/2012 06:28 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Paul / Gary - can either of you give it a shot at playing devil's advocate?<br>> > And by that, I mean a good shot, not just some half assed, weak, grasping at<br>> > straws attempt.<br>> ><br>> > -Scott<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I really can't. If I had to attack gay marriage, I would do it by attacking<br>> > the very concept of marriage as a whole. It's a religious institution that<br>> > has no place in a presumed secular society. It's formed straight out of<br>> > tradition, and the world has moved on. Every secular benefit given to<br>> > married couples should be individually scrutinized in order to determine if<br>> > it could in fact be given out to others as well as married couples. Why<br>> > shouldn't your best friend be able to make medical decisions on your behalf<br>> > if you are incapacitated, if it's been setup that way before-hand? Why<br>> > shouldn't any number of people be able to sign up to jointly care for a<br>> > child, receiving tax benefits in exchange? And so on.<br>> ><br>> > Gay marriages would be just as wrong as... non-gay marriages.<br>> ><br>> > Paul<br>> ><br>> > ________________________________<br>> > Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:46:06 -0700<br>> > From: kmmos1@frontier.com<br>> > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same sex marriage<br>> ><br>> > On 7/15/2012 4:37 AM, Donovan Arnold wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Sorry, Ken, but that is one of the silliest arguments I have heard. Marriage<br>> > has nothing to do with if people have children or not.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Marriage has to do with, among other things, with whether people have social<br>> > permission to procreate. Same-sex marriage implies such permission is not<br>> > granted to individuals within that relationship.<br>> ><br>> > You can be married and have no children and be not married and have 10<br>> > children.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Of course. Physical biology is not prevented by marriage or its absence.<br>> ><br>> > Many same sex couples can, do, will, and want to have children, and make<br>> > damn good parents too.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Likewise true.<br>> ><br>> > It is actually easier to have more children if you are NOT in a monogamous<br>> > relationship for both genders.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > If a person lacks a spouse who would disapprove of extramarital sexuality,<br>> > and if that person cares not whether pregnancy results from personal sexual<br>> > activity, then more children may result.<br>> ><br>> > A man is more able to impregnate more women, and a woman would be more<br>> > likely to get pregnant with more men.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Marriage may have a counter-intuitive prophylactic effect as a result of<br>> > each partner encouraging more responsibility from the other without regard<br>> > to partner gender.<br>> ><br>> > More irresponsible, less thoughtful, people may cause more pregnancies<br>> > without regard to partner gender if they are not monogamous. If they are<br>> > monogamous fewer pregnancies will result within same-sex couples, whether or<br>> > not they are married.<br>> ><br>> > People should not, or be socially engineered to marry a person of a gender<br>> > they are not attracted to, that is unfair to one or both of them.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I am not suggesting unwanted marriage. Remaining single is just as available<br>> > an option.<br>> ><br>> > As well as others that could be deprived of their true affections and love.<br>> ><br>> > Marriage should ALWAYS be about two consenting adults who love each other.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > How romantic. And in many cases, how unrealistic. Over the centuries<br>> > marriage has more often been an arrangement implementing social<br>> > practicalities rather than love. Given the intractable societal burdens of<br>> > overpopulation, societal concerns may well trump personal preferences for<br>> > multiple reasons -- food sharing, housing sharing, and many facets of more<br>> > efficient societal use of many limited resources.<br>> ><br>> > And nothing else. People deserve nothing less.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Whether or not our current mixture of preferences will survive increasing<br>> > population pressures is both uncertain and unlikely.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Ken<br>> ><br>> > ======================================================= List services made<br>> > available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse<br>> > since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br></div> </div></body>
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