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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Your experiences in the South were probably more vivid and different that mine. My father grew up in the south, but I was pretty old, ten, by the time I moved to Virginia. <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>Virginia</SPAN></SPAN> was the home of the Northern Army of <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>Virginia</SPAN></SPAN> and the Sons of Confederate Veterans, and the Dixie Flag was also both their symbols. So the flag was probably more common where it <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-2>originated</SPAN>. I also had a strong negative feeling toward it, which probably made every one <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-3><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">extremely</SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-4><SPAN>noticeable</SPAN></SPAN> in my mind. But I also know several other southern states had flags with that Dixie symbol in it, or looked a lot like it, or
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Wayne <SPAN id=misspell-3 class=mark>et</SPAN> <SPAN id=misspell-4 class=mark>al</SPAN>,</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">First, though, can you please tell us more about the display? I had hoped to make it to the courthouse yesterday to take a look myself, but I left <SPAN id=misspell-6 class=mark>Tri</SPAN>-State at something like 4:59, so clearly I <SPAN id=misspell-7 class=mark>wasn</SPAN>’t going to make it. What was the veteran’s name? And, what’s the justification/rationale for displaying the Confederate flag for a Union soldier? I hope you & Gary will please tell us more about what you learned from the display.</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Gary, I also have to disagree with you that the display has been there for “months,” having been preceded by a WWII display. I was in the courthouse in May <SPAN id=misspell-8 class=mark>IIRC</SPAN>, and I’m pretty darn sure there was a lovely quilt on display at that time – <SPAN id=misspell-9 class=mark>IIRC</SPAN>, each square was made by county assessor offices around the state. The quilt was being raffled off, and I meant to make it back to buy some tickets, but the best laid plans . . . In any case, I think you’re wrong, and I hope it’s a genuine error on your part rather than propaganda. While my recollection of time can be hazy, I’d not mistake less than two weeks for “months.”</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Janesta: perhaps Wayne or Gary can clarify since both have been to the courthouse more recently than have I, but <SPAN id=misspell-11 class=mark>IIRC</SPAN>, the pink box is for donations of some sort – perhaps canned goods? Can anyone clarify? I will say that I think the US & ID flags were in the same location back in May, which is another issue.</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Donovan: as some know, I was born & (mostly) raised in the South, and I still visit family & friends there. My experience has been completely different than Donovan’s: growing up, I <B><U><SPAN id=misspell-12 class=mark>didn</SPAN>’t</U></B> see many Confederate flags on display there, and I still don’t. Indeed, while not making disparaging comments about family who were raised & came of age in a different generation (and many of whom have, no doubt, rolled over in their graves more than once at my beliefs), I was taught from a very young age to “stay away” from that nonsense because it was anti-American (perhaps the origins of the original “America: love it or leave it” sentiment?) & because those who persisted in Confederate flag divisiveness (and make no mistake about it, that’s
<B>exactly</B> what it is) were a bunch of “d*<SPAN id=misspell-13 class=mark>mn</SPAN> fools,” according to my granddaddy. I’m older than Donovan, and I <SPAN id=misspell-14 class=mark>didn</SPAN>’t live in VA, but my roots are in the South, and the above upbringing was from the three generations before me. Which is just to say that Donovan’s experiences certainly don’t mirror my own, those I grew up with, and those I continue to visit; not that I doubt Donovan’s experience.</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Going back to Wayne: since you think this issue is a tempest in a tea pot, please help me to understand. What on <B>earth</B> is the relevance of displaying a <B>Confederate</B> flag in a display about a <B>Union</B> soldier imprisoned in <SPAN id=misspell-15 class=mark>Andersonville</SPAN>?! You’<SPAN id=misspell-16 class=mark>ve</SPAN> got a military background, so let’s use a hypothetical. Let’s pretend you served our nation in the Vietnam War and were taken captive. Let’s further pretend that you survived captivity in horrendous conditions by the North Vietnamese, and lived out the rest of your life in Latah County. And, let’s further pretend that at some point after your death, whoever is responsible for the displays at the courthouse decided to tell your story, complete with the flag of your
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Let’s take this further. Gary informs us that there was an “educational” WWII display between the quilt I saw in May & the current display. As some may – or may not – know, we have Holocaust survivors in Latah County, and we have survivors of survivors of the Holocaust here. Were any of those survivors to be “honored” by a courthouse display, would you think it appropriate to display the Nazi flag and/or the Gestapo flag as a part of the display? Silly me – were I a Holocaust survivor, the <B>absolutely last</B> thing I’d want displayed in honor of my experiences is the flag of my captors.</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Finally, am I the only one who finds it beyond odd that a Confederate flag was at the ready to “honor” a <B>Union</B> POW? <SPAN id=misspell-19 class=mark>Wouldn</SPAN>’t it have made far more sense to display a flag that meant something positive to the deceased rather than to use his story as an excuse to display the flag of his captors?</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In any case, I find the cultural tone deafness of the person or persons responsible for allowing the display absolutely stunning, and I find a Confederate flag displayed in the Courthouse indefensible, particularly in this instance where the display is apparently to honor & tell the story of a <B>Union</B> soldier who was tortured (and there’s no other way to describe <SPAN id=misspell-20 class=mark>Andersonville</SPAN>) by the Confederacy.</SPAN></div>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal>I've been following this discussion since it started this morning, and decided that before I wrote anything, I'd go up and take a look at the historic display in question to see for myself what all the fuss is about and if it's a substantial issue. I took a look, and it is, in my opinion, a tempest in a tea pot!</div></DIV>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal>The focus of the display is primarily about a UNION CIVIL WAR officer that was captured by the Confederates and held at <SPAN id=misspell-22 class=mark>Andersonville</SPAN> Prison during the Civil War! The Confederate flag </div></DIV>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal>Hi everybody I just talked with Jennifer Barrett. Haven't seen Tom's pictures but she thought it was part of a historical display about certain battles. She thinks the Historical Society is responsible for the maintenance of the case. If it's a historical display from the 1860s the Confederate flag may be perfectly appropriate to the display. <BR><BR>Sent from my <SPAN id=misspell-25 class=mark>iPhone</SPAN></div></DIV>
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<div class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I called the courthouse – thanks for the photos, Tom. I spoke to the auditor’s office where I had hoped to reach Susan Petersen. Ms. Petersen, who is out of the office is in sole charge of the display case. No one else appears to know who or what group is responsible for the display. I encourage all V2020 subscribers who share our concern about what is clearly a celebration of the Confederacy lodge a complaint or query (or, if you are a jackass a pat on the back) to Susan at :</SPAN></div>
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<div style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=yiv1929434242MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tom,<BR><BR>Was there any information regarding this display. Something like 'Donated by [insert church name of your choosing] to commemorate the greatest civilization in the history of the world where slaves and their owners shared genuine affection for each other and made God smile'?<BR><BR>-Scott</SPAN></div>
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