Why not a display about herpes, or incest, or rodent infestation? Wouldn't want to censor those, would we? After all, we don't want to sugarcoat the horrible world we live in! <br><br>What good does it do? None. We all know about the ills of slavery. Well, most of us at least. Joe<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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One doesn't nuance slavery, but we shouldn't sugar-coat it
either. It's a historical display. We shouldn't be
self-censoring it because people might find the confederate flag
offensive. Some people would find the union flag offensive, if
they had ancestors that died on that side of the war.<br>
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As a community, we should not be afraid to look at this display
unflinchingly and remember the positives and the negatives of that
conflict. Be very, very careful about self-censoring our
history. As a country we have done some pretty bad things, to
each other and to people outside our borders, and those things
should be remembered.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 07/13/2012 11:56 AM, Rosemary Huskey wrote:<br>
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would call a confederate flag placed in a display about a
confederate soldier with ties to Latah County A Celebratory
Nod to Racism. Help me to understand how one nuances
slavery, Paul. If you are under the impression that
tolerance of the intolerable is a badge of liberal honor,
then I assume you understand completely why I despise and
mock the latte sipping liberals that are so thick on the
ground in Latah County. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Paul Rumelhart<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 13, 2012 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Joe Campbell<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Welcome to Confederate
Latah County . . .<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Would you call placing a confederate flag in a cabinet
housing an historical display about a confederate soldier
that has a tie to Latah County in the Latah County
Courthouse indefensible?<br>
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Because I wouldn't.<br>
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Also, the one-dimensional liberal / conservative axis is
failing us here. We need more nuance in American politics
than that.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 07/13/2012 09:47 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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the indefensible, anything to do with slavery in
particular. There are A LOT of better uses for your words
and your motivations will always be questioned -- no
matter how many times you call yourself a liberal.<br>
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Joe<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
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You have to walk on eggshells around here, lest your
honest opinion be mistaken as an attack on all things
liberal. Which is ironic because I consider myself to
be a liberal (at least on some issues). And I hate
walking on eggshells.<br>
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Paul<br>
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- welcome back to the V Paul. You're a much better
man than I am! [note to myself: never share a
painful personal experience trying to make a
perfectly valid point on the V lest you be savagely
crucified by 'holier than thou' Tom and Donovan)<br>
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Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:13:51 -0700<br>
From: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
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At the risk of sending everyone into an
apoplectic rage by suggesting that they may be
over-reacting, exactly what is the purpose of
that display? Is it, perhaps, to display
information on a historical time, event, or
person connected to the Civil War? If so, then
having a confederate flag in the display might
make sense. Also, trying to imply that the US
and State flags are unimportant because they
placed a table in front of them with a box on it
seems a bit of a stretch.<br>
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Paul<br>
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