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Why not put up a display about (for example) herpes? What it is,
how you get it, how you can recognize it, how you can avoid it,
what are the available treatments for it, etc. If some society
did put up a display about this in the Courthouse, I certainly
wouldn't object to it. It's educational, it's a problem that
education can help with, an so forth. What it would not be,
presumably, is some kind of glorification of the state of having
herpes.<br>
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I also object to the simple idea that any display of the
Confederate flag in any context is always meant as support for the
idea of slavery. I can't think of a symbol that so immediately
makes you think "Civil War" than either the Confederate flag or
the Union Jack, so (not being subject to being offended every time
I turn around) finding one in a display that discusses some aspect
of the Civil War makes perfect sense to me. <br>
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I don't have kids, but if I did, I would want them to live in a
world where they would know what the Civil War was about and what
herpes is.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 07/13/2012 01:03 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:<br>
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type="cite">Why not a display about herpes, or incest, or rodent
infestation? Wouldn't want to censor those, would we? After all,
we don't want to sugarcoat the horrible world we live in! <br>
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What good does it do? None. We all know about the ills of slavery.
Well, most of us at least. Joe<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Paul
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One doesn't nuance slavery, but we shouldn't sugar-coat it
either. It's a historical display. We shouldn't be
self-censoring it because people might find the
confederate flag offensive. Some people would find the
union flag offensive, if they had ancestors that died on
that side of the war.<br>
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As a community, we should not be afraid to look at this
display unflinchingly and remember the positives and the
negatives of that conflict. Be very, very careful about
self-censoring our history. As a country we have done
some pretty bad things, to each other and to people
outside our borders, and those things should be
remembered.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 07/13/2012 11:56 AM, Rosemary Huskey wrote:<br>
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would call a confederate flag placed in a display
about a confederate soldier with ties to Latah
County A Celebratory Nod to Racism. Help me to
understand how one nuances slavery, Paul. If you
are under the impression that tolerance of the
intolerable is a badge of liberal honor, then I
assume you understand completely why I despise and
mock the latte sipping liberals that are so thick on
the ground in Latah County. </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 13, 2012 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Joe Campbell<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Welcome to
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Would you call placing a confederate flag in a
cabinet housing an historical display about a
confederate soldier that has a tie to Latah County
in the Latah County Courthouse indefensible?<br>
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Because I wouldn't.<br>
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Also, the one-dimensional liberal / conservative
axis is failing us here. We need more nuance in
American politics than that.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 07/13/2012 09:47 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it is best to avoid
defending the indefensible, anything to do with
slavery in particular. There are A LOT of better
uses for your words and your motivations will
always be questioned -- no matter how many times
you call yourself a liberal.<br>
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Joe</p>
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a
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You have to walk on eggshells around here,
lest your honest opinion be mistaken as an
attack on all things liberal. Which is ironic
because I consider myself to be a liberal (at
least on some issues). And I hate walking on
eggshells.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Wow! - welcome
back to the V Paul. You're a much better
man than I am! [note to myself: never share
a painful personal experience trying to make
a perfectly valid point on the V lest you be
savagely crucified by 'holier than thou' Tom
and Donovan)<br>
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Jul 2012 18:13:51 -0700<br>
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Welcome to
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At the risk of sending everyone into an
apoplectic rage by suggesting that they
may be over-reacting, exactly what is
the purpose of that display? Is it,
perhaps, to display information on a
historical time, event, or person
connected to the Civil War? If so, then
having a confederate flag in the display
might make sense. Also, trying to imply
that the US and State flags are
unimportant because they placed a table
in front of them with a box on it seems
a bit of a stretch.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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