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      Why not put up a display about (for example) herpes?  What it is,
      how you get it, how you can recognize it, how you can avoid it,
      what are the available treatments for it, etc.  If some society
      did put up a display about this in the Courthouse, I certainly
      wouldn't object to it.  It's educational, it's a problem that
      education can help with, an so forth.  What it would not be,
      presumably, is some kind of glorification of the state of having
      herpes.<br>
      <br>
      I also object to the simple idea that any display of the
      Confederate flag in any context is always meant as support for the
      idea of slavery.  I can't think of a symbol that so immediately
      makes you think "Civil War" than either the Confederate flag or
      the Union Jack, so (not being subject to being offended every time
      I turn around) finding one in a display that discusses some aspect
      of the Civil War makes perfect sense to me.  <br>
      <br>
      I don't have kids, but if I did, I would want them to live in a
      world where they would know what the Civil War was about and what
      herpes is.  Having more information about incest (think genetic
      reasons not to do it) and rodent infestations (possible health
      concerns) wouldn't hurt them, either.<br>
      <br>
      I also object to your snarky "Well, most of us at least." line. 
      Arguing for the use of the Confederate flag as a device for
      decorating a display about something that is connected to that war
      does not mean that I don't know about the ills of slavery.  Do you
      really think I treat slavery as something other than an evil upon
      our society?  <br>
      <br>
      Paul<br>
      <br>
      On 07/13/2012 01:03 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CA+fbP8wAL8JeuF-7M3ExeFo6cSyKhXYaw7fwaZqAhqu8D0Q4aw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Why not a display about herpes, or incest, or rodent
      infestation? Wouldn't want to censor those, would we? After all,
      we don't want to sugarcoat the horrible world we live in!  <br>
      <br>
      What good does it do? None. We all know about the ills of slavery.
      Well, most of us at least. Joe<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Paul
        Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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              One doesn't nuance slavery, but we shouldn't sugar-coat it
              either.  It's a historical display.  We shouldn't be
              self-censoring it because people might find the
              confederate flag offensive.  Some people would find the
              union flag offensive, if they had ancestors that died on
              that side of the war.<br>
              <br>
              As a community, we should not be afraid to look at this
              display unflinchingly and remember the positives and the
              negatives of that conflict.  Be very, very careful about
              self-censoring our history.  As a country we have done
              some pretty bad things, to each other and to people
              outside our borders, and those things should be
              remembered.<br>
              <br>
              Paul<br>
              <br>
              On 07/13/2012 11:56 AM, Rosemary Huskey wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I 

                    would call a confederate flag placed in a display
                    about a confederate soldier with ties to Latah
                    County A Celebratory Nod to Racism.   Help me to
                    understand how one nuances slavery, Paul.  If you
                    are under the impression that tolerance of the
                    intolerable is a badge of liberal honor, then I
                    assume you understand completely why I despise and
                    mock the latte sipping liberals that are so thick on
                    the ground in Latah County.  </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rose</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
                          target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
                        [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
                          target="_blank">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 13, 2012 11:35 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Joe Campbell<br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> viz<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Welcome to
                        Confederate Latah County . . .</span></p>
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                    Would you call placing a confederate flag in a
                    cabinet housing an historical display about a
                    confederate soldier that has a tie to Latah County
                    in the Latah County Courthouse indefensible?<br>
                    <br>
                    Because I wouldn't.<br>
                    <br>
                    Also, the one-dimensional liberal / conservative
                    axis is failing us here.  We need more nuance in
                    American politics than that.<br>
                    <br>
                    Paul<br>
                    <br>
                    On 07/13/2012 09:47 AM, Joe Campbell wrote:</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">I think it is best to avoid
                      defending the indefensible, anything to do with
                      slavery in particular. There are A LOT of better
                      uses for your words and your motivations will
                      always be questioned -- no matter how many times
                      you call yourself a liberal.<br>
                      <br>
                      Joe</p>
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                      On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"
                        target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
                      wrote:</p>
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                          You have to walk on eggshells around here,
                          lest your honest opinion be mistaken as an
                          attack on all things liberal.  Which is ironic
                          because I consider myself to be a liberal (at
                          least on some issues).  And I hate walking on
                          eggshells.<br>
                          <br>
                          Paul<br>
                          <br>
                          On 07/13/2012 12:25 AM, Scott Dredge wrote:</p>
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                            style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Wow! - welcome
                            back to the V Paul.  You're a much better
                            man than I am! [note to myself: never share
                            a painful personal experience trying to make
                            a perfectly valid point on the V lest you be
                            savagely crucified by 'holier than thou' Tom
                            and Donovan)<br>
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                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Date: Thu, 12
                              Jul 2012 18:13:51 -0700<br>
                              From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"
                                target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
                              To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"
                                target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
                              CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
                                target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
                              Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Welcome to
                              Confederate Latah County . . .</p>
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                                At the risk of sending everyone into an
                                apoplectic rage by suggesting that they
                                may be over-reacting, exactly what is
                                the purpose of that display?  Is it,
                                perhaps, to display information on a
                                historical time, event, or person
                                connected to the Civil War?  If so, then
                                having a confederate flag in the display
                                might make sense.  Also, trying to imply
                                that the US and State flags are
                                unimportant because they placed a table
                                in front of them with a box on it seems
                                a bit of a stretch.<br>
                                <br>
                                Paul<br>
                                <br>
                                On 07/12/2012 01:17 PM, Tom Hansen
                                wrote:</p>
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                              <pre>Seeya round town, Moscow.</pre>
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                              <pre>Tom Hansen</pre>
                              <pre>Moscow, Idaho</pre>
                              <pre> </pre>
                              <pre>"If not us, who?</pre>
                              <pre>If not now, when?"</pre>
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