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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Facts frequently don't agree with your statements. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">First, every person that goes to the emergency room pays for it. Hospitals immediately sue anyone that doesn't pay them for services rendered. Check any courthouse and see who has the record for suing people, after financial services it is health care providers and hospitals.<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">In addition, if you bothered to look at the numbers, the taxes on alcohol consumed by mostly the young, that goes to hospitals for emergency care more than covers the costs they acquire for <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>indigent</SPAN></SPAN> care. Hospitals just want to keep the money, which they get to if they don't have any <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>indigents</SPAN></SPAN>. It is government health insurance, like Tricare, Medicaid, and Medicare that puts hospitals in the hole and raises the rates for private insurance, not <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-3><SPAN>indigents</SPAN></SPAN> that are covered by taxes. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Second, this doesn't change the fact that insurance and health care is still <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-4><SPAN>unaffordable</SPAN></SPAN> for most <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-5><SPAN>families</SPAN></SPAN> without assistance, which most won't get. Nor will it improve the quality of health care. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Third, I haven't met anyone [HIYAHIDNNHI] that doesn't have insurance simple because they don't want to pay it. All the people I have met without insurance are people that cannot afford it, like the young or middle class with health problems or a disability, who have a 25%-50% unemployment rate. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Finally, there is a reason no other country in the world has a plan like this one, it won't work, unless you are rich, or dirt poor. It in fact might be cheaper to make less just so you can get health insurance for free then make a little more and have to pay the huge <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-7><SPAN>premiums</SPAN></SPAN> and copays yourself.</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Donovan J. Arnold</SPAN></div>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">When somebody who can afford health insurance, but does not have health insurance . . . (the hey-I'm-young-and-healthy---I-don't-need-no-health-insurance [HIYAHIDNNHI] people) is injured or sick and needs hospitalization NOW, who do you think pays for it, Mr. Arnold? </DIV>
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<DIV>We all do through higher premiums. This "tax" is aimed at those <SPAN class=yiv645180001Apple-style-span>HIYAHIDNNHI people.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=yiv645180001Apple-style-span>Now, do you get it? Or do you prefer paying higher premiums?<BR></SPAN><BR>
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<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
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<DIV>"If not us, who?</DIV>
<DIV>If not now, when?"</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On Jun 30, 2012, at 14:01, Donovan Arnold <<A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Anyone making over 133% of the poverty line must buy it. That means a family of four making $30,000 a year is expected to buy insurance for everyone in the family. Or a family of two making $20,000. Do you think they can afford that? </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Not many people can afford insurance all the time on their own. It is like $300 per person and up. Hard to do on a $26000 (what half the people make) a year paycheck. Only when employers pay most the <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-0><SPAN>premium</SPAN></SPAN> can people afford it. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Health insurance is fraud. It is designed to make you pay more than you get, that is how they make their money. Insurance companies will only let me in for $500 a month. And my medical expenses are only $1500 a year. That is highway robbery. And that insurance is with a $5000 <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-1><SPAN>deductible</SPAN></SPAN>. Which means I have to spend 33% of my net income just to start to use the insurance. This law won't give me insurance, I will have to pay the tax because I cannot afford the <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-2><SPAN>premiums</SPAN></SPAN> of $500 (same as my rent) a month and the $1500 a year I pay. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Don't be surprised either when your insurance <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-3><SPAN>premiums and copays</SPAN></SPAN> go through the roof now that you have to buy it and people cannot be turned down except by not being able to pay the higher <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-4><SPAN>premiums</SPAN></SPAN>. It will be like gas prices, every insurance company will raise their rates $100 a month and you won't be able to do <VAR id=yiv645180001yui-ie-cursor></VAR>anything about it but pay it--it is the law. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=yiv645180001hr></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> lfalen <<A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A>> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Donovan Arnold <<A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>; Joe Campbell <<A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>>; Moscow Vision 2020 <<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, June 30, 2012 11:39 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] Constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act(<SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-6 class=yiv645180001mark>Obamacare</SPAN>) . . .<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>The "tax" referenced in <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-7 class=yiv645180001mark>Obamacare</SPAN> is not levied against EVERYBODY, merely those that can afford health insurance that do not have health insurance.<BR><BR><SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-8 class=yiv645180001mark>Seeya</SPAN> round town, Moscow.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR>"If not
us, who?<BR>If not now, when?"<BR><BR>- Unknown<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Jun 30, 2012, at 10:19, lfalen <<A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A></A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> No they were not from Trump and <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-10 class=yiv645180001mark>Bain</SPAN>. T^hey were from middle class <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-11 class=yiv645180001mark>americans</SPAN>. I agree with your last sentence.<BR>> Roger<BR>> -----Original message-----<BR>> From: Donovan Arnold <A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A></A><BR>> Date: Thu, 28
Jun 2012 22:10:14 -0700<BR>> To: lfalen <A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A></A>, Joe Campbell <A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A></A>, Tom Hansen <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act(<SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-13 class=yiv645180001mark>Obamacare</SPAN>) . . .<BR>>
<BR>>> "Today after the vote and Romney's statement that he wanted it repealed, he received several million in new contributions".<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> Yes, those contributors were named Trump and <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-14 class=yiv645180001mark>Bain</SPAN>. They shouldn't be wasting their money on losing candidates. They are going to need it to pay for all the new taxes they are going to have.<BR>>> <BR>>> I hope Obama and Congress don't demand I buy life and home owners insurance next or pay another tax I can ill afford. <BR>>> <BR>>> Donovan J. Arnold<BR>>> <BR>>> From: lfalen <<A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A></A>><BR>>> To: Joe Campbell <<A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A></A>>; Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A>> <BR>>> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>> <BR>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:54 PM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act(<SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-16
class=yiv645180001mark>Obamacare</SPAN>) . . .<BR>>> <BR>>> He vary well may win, however with only a third of the voters in favor of <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-17 class=yiv645180001mark>Obamacare</SPAN> his chances are reduced. Today after the vote and Romney's statement that he wanted it repealed, he received several million in new contributions.<BR>>> Roger<BR>>> -----Original message-----<BR>>> From: Joe Campbell <A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A></A><BR>>> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:37:14 -0700<BR>>> To: Tom Hansen <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act(<SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-18 class=yiv645180001mark>Obamacare</SPAN>) . . .<BR>>> <BR>>>> My prediction: Obama wins in 2012.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A>> wrote:<BR>>>>> . . . has been upheld by the Supreme Court by a vote of 5-4.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> More to follow.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-19 class=yiv645180001mark>Seeya</SPAN> round town, Moscow.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> Tom Hansen<BR>>>>> Moscow,
Idaho<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> "If not us, who?<BR>>>>> If not now, when?"<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> - Unknown<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> <BR>>>>> =======================================================<BR>>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>>>> serving the communities of the <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-20 class=yiv645180001mark>Palouse</SPAN> since 1994.<BR>>>>> <A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank><A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.fsr.net/</A></A><BR>>>>> <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-21 class=yiv645180001mark>mailto</SPAN>:<A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>>>>> =======================================================<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =======================================================<BR>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>>> serving the communities of the <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-22 class=yiv645180001mark>Palouse</SPAN> since 1994.<BR>>>> <A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank><A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.fsr.net/</A></A><BR>>>> <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-23 class=yiv645180001mark>mailto</SPAN>:<A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>>>> =======================================================<BR>>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> =======================================================<BR>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>> serving the communities of the <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-24 class=yiv645180001mark>Palouse</SPAN> since 1994.<BR>>> <A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank><A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.fsr.net/</A></A><BR>>> <SPAN id=yiv645180001misspell-25 class=yiv645180001mark>mailto</SPAN>:<A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>>> =======================================================<BR>>> <BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>