<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Chuck,</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">I asked the question of where your evidence was the Obama was killing innocent civilians at wedding. Your response was only one article dated before Obama was even President.</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Now your response if an opinion piece that attacks a <SPAN id=misspell-0 class=mark>strawman</SPAN> argument I, Obama, and nobody that I know of has made.</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">The number of civilian <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>causalities</SPAN></SPAN> killed under Obama during his 3 1/2 years in office, is less than that of George W. Bush in any given y<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>ear he was President, less than Clinton, less than Bush Sr., and less than Ronald Reagan.</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">That does that make Obama right? No. But to attack Obama as bombing civilian weddings, when he has not, is wrong. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">You bash our troops for their biased newspaper information, while at the same time are peddling misinformation yourself. How hypocritical is that?</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Donovan J. Arnold</SPAN></div>
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<DIV>Damn, I forgot, Donovan. He did everything in his power as the Jr. Senator from Illinois and as the President of the United States to stop this crap. As Ross <SPAN id=misspell-3 class=mark>Caputi</SPAN> stated in the Guardian in March of this year:<BR><BR>"The <SPAN id=misspell-4 class=mark>consequentialist</SPAN> will argue that the good results outweigh the bad, that democracy, freedom and the liberation of Afghan women will improve the lives of Afghans so much that the deaths of a few are justified. This is an easy judgment for westerners to make from the comforts of their own homes; but it stinks of the same patriarchy and arrogance of the white man's burden that justified colonialism for so many years. Has anyone consulted Afghans and asked them if they think the good that the west has promised will come of this occupation is worth the lives of their family members?"<BR><BR>And, to you Tom, more <SPAN id=misspell-5
class=mark>Caputi</SPAN>:<BR><BR>"Yet, western audiences feel reassured knowing that most of the civilian deaths in Afghanistan were not intended; and they only become outraged when marines and soldiers clearly target civilians and <A href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/13/bush-my-lai-haditha-massacre-fund?INTCMP=SRCH" rel=nofollow target=_blank>kill women and children</A>, <A href="http://livepage.apple.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>urinate on their bodies</A>, and <A href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/30/kill-team-photos-afghanistan-us" rel=nofollow target=_blank>plunder their body parts as trophies</A>. From <SPAN id=misspell-6 class=mark>Abu</SPAN> <SPAN id=misspell-7 class=mark>Ghraib</SPAN>, to <SPAN id=misspell-8 class=mark>Fallujah</SPAN>, to <SPAN id=misspell-9 class=mark>Haditha</SPAN>, and now to <SPAN id=misspell-10 class=mark>Panjwai</SPAN>, US forces have committed massacres against
civilians. These incidents stand out in the western mind, but to Afghans and Iraqis, they are no different from the daily slaughter of civilians by drones, air strikes, depleted uranium and stray bullets." <BR><BR>When <SPAN id=misspell-11 class=mark>Caputi</SPAN> gets to write a column in one of the military "Times" I may go back to reading them again. In the meantime I'm not going to hold my breath as long as Obama, Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Nixon, Johnson, Romney, Kissinger etc., etc., hold power and rational thinking people swallow the "security" crap hook, line and sinker.<BR><BR> Chuck Kovis<BR><BR></DIV></DIV><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>