<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">That cannot be it. Student fees could not go to salaries of faculty until two years ago with the Idaho <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>Constitutional</SPAN></SPAN> amendment. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">I do remember in the 1990s hearing of an argument between <SPAN id=misspell-0 class=mark>Zinser</SPAN> and the staff that hurt her reputation and she left shortly thereafter. Don't remember what it was. I am sure the Argonaut would know<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Donovan J. Arnold</SPAN></div>
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<DIV>Yeah. That was it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks.<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN id=misspell-2 class=mark>Seeya</SPAN> round town, Moscow.</DIV>
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<DIV>"If not us, who?</DIV>
<DIV>If not now, when?"</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On May 7, 2012, at 18:59, Ron Force <<A href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr contentEditable=false readonly="true"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "<SPAN id=misspell-3 class=mark>Gier</SPAN>, Nicholas" <<A href="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu">ngier@uidaho.edu</A>> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Moscow Vision 2020 <<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>; Penni
Cyr <<A href="mailto:cpenni@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:cpenni@gmail.com">cpenni@gmail.com</A>> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, May 7, 2012 3:17 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] Top 10 Public-Paid Salaries in Idaho<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV>Yo, Nick!</DIV>
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<DIV>I remember back in my junior (or was it senior) year (1994/1995) that some faculty done went AWOL (out of the state, maybe even country) over their disagreement with <SPAN id=misspell-5 class=mark>Zinser</SPAN>.</DIV>
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<DIV>Do you recall that?<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN id=misspell-6 class=mark>Seeya</SPAN> round town, Moscow.</DIV>
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<DIV>"If not us, who?</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On May 7, 2012, at 14:22, "<SPAN id=misspell-7 class=mark>Gier</SPAN>, Nicholas" <<A href="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu"><A href="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ngier@uidaho.edu">ngier@uidaho.edu</A></A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi Donovan,<BR><BR>When Elizabeth <SPAN id=misspell-8 class=mark>Zinser</SPAN> was hired in 1989 she made more than any of the other Idaho university executives. Their salaries were finally equalized only after the hiring of <SPAN id=misspell-9 class=mark>Nellis</SPAN>,and now each of them make 487 percent more than President Richard Gibb made in FY82.<BR><BR>When I arrived at the University of Idaho in 1972, new assistant professors made $10,000 and President Ernest <SPAN id=misspell-10 class=mark>Hartung</SPAN> made $30,000. When President Richard Gibb was hired in 1977, his salary had risen to four times that of entry level faculty. Faculty complaints became more vocal when President Elizabeth <SPAN id=misspell-11 class=mark>Zinser's</SPAN> 1993 salary was five times entry level salaries. <SPAN id=misspell-12 class=mark>Zinser</SPAN> promised that her "high tide" wage would float all faculty boats, but instead, except for
a few good years, our boats have been completely swamped.<BR><BR><SPAN id=misspell-13 class=mark>Zinser</SPAN> went on to Kentucky and then, still with her Idaho state senator husband (now deceased), spent her last working years at the fairly small Southern Oregon University campus. I was in touch with her when I reviewed the philosophy department program there many years ago.<BR><BR>Please note, Donovan, that I added "the seeds of trees" to my epigraph below, as you suggested.<BR><BR>Nick<BR><BR>A society grows great when old men plant the seeds of trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.<BR><BR>-Greek proverb<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A></A> on
behalf of Donovan Arnold<BR>Sent: Mon 5/7/2012 1:37 PM<BR>To: Sue <SPAN id=misspell-14 class=mark>Hovey</SPAN>; Contact - <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A>; Moscow Vision 2020<BR>Cc: Penni Cyr<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Top 10 Public-Paid Salaries in Idaho<BR><BR>Sue,<BR> <BR>There is probably a law in Idaho making that illegal.<BR> <BR>How much did President Elisabeth <SPAN id=misspell-16 class=mark>Zinser</SPAN> make in comparison to other Presidents at the time?<BR> <BR>Donovan J. Arnold<BR><BR>From: Sue <SPAN id=misspell-17 class=mark>Hovey</SPAN> <<A href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A></A>><BR>To: Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A></A>>; Moscow Vision 2020 <<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>><BR>Cc: Penni Cyr <<A href="mailto:cpenni@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:cpenni@gmail.com"><A href="mailto:cpenni@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:cpenni@gmail.com">cpenni@gmail.com</A></A>><BR>Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 2:01 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Top 10 Public-Paid Salaries in Idaho<BR><BR>Wonder if there's a female
CEO in Idaho who would make the list if all salaries were included?<BR><BR>Sue<BR><BR>-----Original Message----- From: Tom Hansen<BR>Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:24 PM<BR>To: Moscow Vision 2020<BR>Cc: Penni Cyr<BR>Subject: [Vision2020] Top 10 Public-Paid Salaries in Idaho<BR><BR>Courtesy of today's (May 4, 2012) <SPAN id=misspell-20 class=mark>UI</SPAN> Argonaut.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><SPAN id=misspell-21 class=mark>Seeya</SPAN> round town, Moscow.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR>"If not us, who?<BR>If not now, when?"<BR><BR>- Unknown<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>=======================================================<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>serving the communities of the <SPAN id=misspell-22 class=mark>Palouse</SPAN> since 1994.<BR> <A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.fsr.net</A><BR>
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