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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Donovan, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You may have missed it in Chris’ first sentence:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“football revenue”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>DC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Donovan Arnold<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> Love America<br><b>Cc:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Vandal sports<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I am not sure why diversity and opportunities would suffer at <span class=mark>UI</span> by returning to the Big Sky, nor did your response state why. I am 100% for Title IX, always have been. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>My understanding, however, whenever I looked into the situation while at <span class=mark>UI</span>, was that <span class=mark>UI</span> athletics always cost the <span class=mark>UI</span> more in revenues than it ever brought in and football only helped to offset those huge expenses. If this is so, I would surmise the shrinking of <span class=mark>UI</span> athletics would reduce costs to the <span class=mark>UI</span> overall and allow more minority students an opportunity to attend <span class=mark>UI</span> than athletics. Further, it would be minority students attending college for their academic achievements and talents rather than their ability to throw, catch, hit, or kick a ball. Many of those students would then be more likely to go on as graduate students which generate additional revenues for the <span class=mark>UI</span> assisting professors with their research. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>So I see reducing athletics and returning to Big Sky as an opportunity to win and reduce costs, while at the same time promoting diversity and academic opportunities. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Donovan J. Arnold<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Love America <<a href="mailto:skialaska0@gmail.com">skialaska0@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a> <br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:51 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Vandal sports</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Donovan,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>If Idaho were to go back to the Big Sky, <span class=mark>UI</span> would have to cut women's programs plain and simple. Whether you like it or not, football revenue and Title IX compliance are why women's programs are doing so well at <span class=mark>UI</span>. I suspect soccer would go first, followed by women's golf. Men's and women's swimming would be cut next and probably some track scholarships are lost. Heck, I wish the Vandals have had better success at WAC football, but at least the pain on the gridiron (with a couple of great years in the midst) has allowed hundreds of athletes to attend the <span class=mark>UI</span> who would not have had a chance if the <span class=mark>UI</span> was still in the Big Sky. Those scholarships have helped with diversity, have added to the richness of the university, and have introduced 100's of fine people to Moscow that would have not been there. I love winning like anyone else, but I know that in the end having these opportunities for these fine students outweigh the win/loss record of any football team.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Thanks<br>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Leaving the Big Sky was a big mistake, and we need to put money into women's programs. Lady Vandals KICK ASS! Have always been a league above the rest. They were 3rd in the nation in Rodeo when I was there. Not many know that. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Donovan J. Arnold<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Carl <span class=mark>Westberg</span> <<a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank">idahovandal1@live.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> "<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:35 PM <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Vandal sports<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>As much of a die-hard Vandal as I am and as much of what remaining in Division 1A may mean to the <span class=mark>UI</span> Athletic Program, the boys of Bozo State, coupled with the loss of <span class=mark>UI's</span> "Flagship" moniker, have taught me one valuable lesson . . .<br><br>It simply is NOT that important!<br><br>Boise State is a prime example of what can happen if your priorities are messed up. Boise State has been a four-year college since the 60s. Although their football program has become a national Division 1A contender, their academic program remains at tier 3 along with a majority of northwest community colleges . . . not one PhD program and very few masters programs, while the University of Idaho has evolved into a nationally competitive tier 1 source of higher education and possesses a wide variety of many graduate programs.<br><br><span class=mark>Seeya</span> round town, Moscow.<br><br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho <br>(<span class=mark>UI</span> '96, Information Systems)<br><br>"If not us, who?<br>If not now, when?"<br><br>- Unknown<br><br><br><br>On May 2, 2012, at 11:08, Carl <span class=mark>Westberg</span> <<a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank">idahovandal1@live.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I've brought this subject up before, but recent conference shuffling events really seem to have put U of Idaho athletics in a very hard place. No Division 1 conference seems to want the Vandals. I just saw a <span class=mark>Facebook</span> poll asking which of three options respondents would prefer given the circumstances. 1. Try playing as a D-1 independent, which would probably mean about three home games a year while hoping for an eventual conference invitation. 2. Play, again, in the Sun Belt (teams in Louisiana, Tennessee...) to stay D-1. If the Sun Belt wanted Idaho. 3. Swallow pride and return to 1-AA and the Big Sky. So far in the <span class=mark>Facebook</span> poll, the Big Sky leads comfortably. Any thoughts? 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