Hi Donovan,<br><br>You <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Hi Donovan,<br><br>Personally, I'd call the newspaper, and let them know, also, Medicare, and Medicaid, if shortcuts are being taken in medication, it needs to be reported. Period.<br>
<br>I am a touch confused, is the medical professional holding the medication stating they are doing so because the patient can't afford it? Is the hold being documented as such? <br><br>In my work, I have often referred people to <a href="http://www.needymeds.org/">http://www.needymeds.org/</a> and have had much success.<br>
<br>Janesta<br><br>(sorry I flaked on the conversation back in February... there was a death in the family, I had to go to Boise for a month, and had no net access)<br><br>On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Donovan Arnold <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>To which authority do you suggest I report these unethical but lawful actions to? Do I call the police to report a <span><span>non-crime</span></span>? </span></div>
<div><span>Do I call an EMT, the fire department, the consumer protection agency? Or perhaps Batman and Robin? Maybe Mr. Wayne's utility belt has a pharmacology kit that dispenses <span><span><span>prescription</span></span></span> medications? He can swing from roof top to roof top of nursing homes <span><span>administering</span></span> life enhancing <span><span>prescriptions</span></span> to little old ladies denied by their insurance companies. </span></div>
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<div><span>I have spent the better part of the last 15 years doing all I can for persons with disabilities, in advanced age, and the economically disadvantaged. I am sorry that is not enough for you Mr. Hansen. If I knew how to do more, I certainly would try. Aside from registering as a member of the Idaho Republican Party, please tell me what<var></var> you are <span>doing</span> for them lately that I should be doing too?</span></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:43 PM<div><div class="h5"><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Something you need to know<br></div></div></font></div>
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<div>I am NOT encouraging Mr. Arnold to file a by-name complaint. I (very much) respect people's privacy.</div>
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<div>I am merely suggesting that if these ethical problems, mentioned by Mr. Arnold, exist and persist, he should shine the light of day on them by via the media or by reporting them to the authorities. This can be accomplished without mentioning patients' names.</div>
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<div>Sitting on <span>one's</span> butt, doing nothing, accomplishes just that . , , NOTHING!<br><br>
<div><span>Seeya</span> round town, Moscow.</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"If not us, who?</div>
<div>If not now, when?"</div>
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<div>- Unknown</div>
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<div><br>On May 2, 2012, at 11:18, "Sue Hovey" <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Hey there. <span>HIPPA</span> is about more than losing ones job. Folks who work in the medical community are not only violating the law but violating the ethics of their chosen profession when they discuss medical conditions of their patients. Donovan, you are right to withhold that information, but what you have written is important nonetheless. I am my daughter’s guardian so I can release her information, and I can tell you, despite the fact she is on Medicaid and to this point has received most of her medications at no cost or with a small co-pay, she has a pharmaceutical drug bill every month. I worry each time I open the envelope she’ll have lost something else. She is <span>uninsurable</span>... and in the past year she has lost state support for counseling, vision, hearing aids, dental (yes, it has been restored but I can’t find a local dentist who
will accept it,) and we have now been told she will be losing support for job coaching which has kept her employed for the past fifteen years. Our three legislators fought a valiant fight for her during the past session when her budget was cut by more than 30%, and were told she <span>wouldn</span>’t be losing any more benefits. That is proving to be not true. </div>
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<div>Register as a Republican? Not now, not ever. </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="thansen@moscow.com" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tom Hansen</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 01, 2012 7:45 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Donovan Arnold</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Moscow Vision2020</a> </div>
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<div>I am being deceitful and critically crippling my integrity by voting Republican in this year's primary. But you (Donovan Arnold) are sanctified for not reporting to proper authorities, or at least the media, that you have been instructed to withhold medications from residents of hospices, nursing homes, and assisted-care facilities BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF LOSING YOUR JOB ? ?</div>
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<div>Here is my suggestion: Grow an EFFING pair ! !</div>
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<div><span>Jeesh</span>!<br><br>
<div><span>Seeya</span> round town, Moscow.</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"If not us, who?</div>
<div>If not now, when?"</div>
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<div>- Unknown</div>
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<div><br>On May 1, 2012, at 7:25, Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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</div><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:02 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Something you need to know<br></font></div>
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<div>Do you have ANY evidence to support your claim? <br><br>
<div><span><span>Seeya</span></span> round town, Moscow.</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"If not us, who?</div>
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<div><br>On May 1, 2012, at 6:43, Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I just thought I would let you all know, if you didn't know already, that people living in nursing and assisted living homes are cut off from medications they need to live or have a normal life because they don't have the money to pay. It is really f**king barbaric. But are government allows it. To me there could be nothing Christian about a country that cuts off medications needed by little 90 year old ladies and men that costs only a few cents to manufacture. Don't count on having your needs met when you are old and unable to take care of<var></var> yourself anymore if our health care system doesn't change drastically and soon. There is a good <span><span>possibility</span></span> that you will be treated as trash once your productive years are gone and you don't put crisp $100 bills in some greedy bastard's pockets. </div>
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