<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>That is irrelevant wrt the issue of validity, whether an inference is valid. But don't trust me. I've only been teaching logic for almost 30 years.<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto"></span> </div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">True, Joe, but a poor one at that. Comparing an ant hill to Mt. Olympus. </span></div>
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<div>It is not a comparison. It is a counterexample to an inference.<br><br><br></div>
<div><br>On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><span>I am aware of the <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-0"><span><span id="misspell-12" class="mark">remark's</span></span></span> <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-1"><span id="yiv1100936553misspell-1">origin</span></span>, Mr. Hansen, as is the entire educated world. And it no less weakens the argument because it is a poor comparison.</span></div>
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<div><span>Claiming the excuse, "I need to feed my family" from someone driving a truck to Canada to ship oil, a needed product, is not the same as claiming, "I need to feed my family" from someone who helped slaughter millions of innocent lives against <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-2"><span>international</span></span> law and basic human morality. One is far more legitimate than the other. Truck drivers are little more guilty of destroying the earth than you or me for the oil we demand by driving our cars and polluting the Earth. Someday, truck drivers are going to park and people will cry out for them as they run out of <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-3"><span>everything</span></span> and anything they need from apples to toilet paper to removal of their own trash. </span></div>
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<div><span>Those that use the Nazi comparison weaken their argument. It cheapens the lives that were lost in that great <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-1"><span id="yiv1100936553misspell-1"><span>atrocity</span></span></span>, nothing compares to it in modern history. It also shows a lack of <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-5"><span>creativity</span></span> in comparison and visual <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-6"><span>illustration</span></span> when the Nazi comparison is made. It is way over used. Certainly, there are other ways of making a point clear without <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-7"><span>bringing</span></span> up Nazis all the time. </span></div>
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<div><span>The focus should not be the construction <span id="misspell-13" class="mark">flaggers</span>, truck drivers, the mechanics that put the tires on the trucks, the police, the gas station <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-3"><span>attendant</span></span> that let the truck driver fuel this truck or the trees and wind for not blocking their path. It <span id="misspell-14" class="mark">shoul</span><var id="yiv1100936553yui-ie-cursor"></var>d be on those in political office that allowed the <span id="misspell-15" class="mark">megaloads</span> up 95 and into Canada and <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-5"><span>corporations</span></span> that <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-6"><span>yield</span></span> considerable power and <span id="yiv1100936553misspell-7"><span>influence</span></span> over those politicians. </span></div>
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<div><span>Attacking the powerless for the actions of the powerful is a fruitless venture.</span></div>
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<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; Jeanne McHale <<a href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</a>>; Fritz Knorr <<a href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</a>>; Brett Haverstick <<a href="mailto:bhaverstick@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:bhaverstick@yahoo.com">bhaverstick@yahoo.com</a>>; Marilyn Beckett <<a href="mailto:marilynbeckett@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:marilynbeckett@gmail.com">marilynbeckett@gmail.com</a>>; CherylHalverson <<a href="mailto:basketmakeart@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:basketmakeart@yahoo.com">basketmakeart@yahoo.com</a>>; Linwood Laughy <<a href="mailto:lin@wildblue.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:lin@wildblue.net">lin@wildblue.net</a>>; HelenYost <<a href="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu">helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu</a>>; Dr. Dinah Zeiger <<a href="mailto:dzeiger@uidaho.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:dzeiger@uidaho.edu">dzeiger@uidaho.edu</a>> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 27, 2012 9:55 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Award Well-Deserved<br></font></div><br>
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<div>Mr. Arnold -</div>
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<div>Basic Logic 101</div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" class="yiv1100936553Apple-style-span">"it was just my job" = "I was just following orders"</span></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" class="yiv1100936553Apple-style-span">The quote on the left was the repeated response, given by management (as well as drivers), to the question "Why?" repeatedly during the past year or so, as the <span id="misspell-28" class="mark">megaloads</span> marauded their way up US95.</span></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: medium" class="yiv1100936553Apple-style-span">The quote on the right was the repeated response to the question "Why?" repeatedly during the <span id="misspell-29" class="mark">Nurnberg</span> trials, by those defendants charged with crimes against humanity.<br></span><br>
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<div>"If not us, who?</div>
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<div><br>On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:44, Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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