<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Unfortunately</SPAN></SPAN>, Ted, the only response to global warming you will get from our current band-aid-it government will be taxpayer <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>subsidizes</SPAN></SPAN> for billionaires and millionairs to rebuild<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR> their coastal homes that will be flooded by rising ocean levels and to <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>pharmaceutical</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> companies for the development of sunblock 450 to be available to the public at the reasonable price of just $499 for a 30 day supply. </SPAN></div>
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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr contentEditable=false readonly="true"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Ted Moffett <starbliss@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; Jeanne McHale <jeannemchale@hotmail.com>; Jim Prall <bermanprall@gmail.com>; Lois Blackburn <loisb@q.com>; Kathy Judson <ponysnpups@gmail.com>; Borg Hendrickson <chicory@wildblue.net>; Friends ofthe Clearwater <foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>; Aaron Ament
<aaronament@moscow.com>; Fritz Knorr <fritzknorr@gmail.com>; Brett Haverstick <bhaverstick@yahoo.com>; Marilyn Beckett <marilynbeckett@gmail.com>; CherylHalverson <basketmakeart@yahoo.com>; Linwood Laughy <lin@wildblue.net>; HelenYost <helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu>; Dr. Dinah Zeiger <dzeiger@uidaho.edu> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, April 27, 2012 11:47 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] Award Well-Deserved<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>Amazing the changes that can happen in just a couple of years...<BR><BR>In August 2008 it was asserted on Vision2020 that I was "obsessing" on<BR>global warming, in questions regarding this issue I asked Dan<BR>Carscallen, in the thread "Dodging Important Questions."<BR><BR>Now in 2012 arrests have been occurring in Moscow in part to protest<BR>behavior increasing the threat of anthropogenic climate change,
i.e.<BR>tar sands bound mega-loads.<BR><BR>To Carscallen's credit, he did answer my question in that 2008 thread,<BR>regarding anthropogenic climate change, as quoted below.<BR><BR>It should be emphasized that Carscallen's response to mega-load<BR>protestors regarding Mayor Cheney's approach to this subject is<BR>somewhat understandable, if he still holds the view of anthropogenic<BR>climate change that he expressed in 2008, as quoted below, a view that<BR>does not hold the threat of anthropogenic climate change as a major<BR>problem that human beings are responsible for. This view on<BR>anthropogenic climate change, or some similar view, is held by a large<BR>percentage of the US public, no doubt also by a large percentage of<BR>Moscow, Idaho residents. He is expressing a very common viewpoint!<BR><BR>I guess I am not currently "obsessing" enough on global warming, given<BR>I decided not to engage in civil disobedience regarding the tar
sands<BR>bound mega-loads coming through Moscow.<BR><BR>But I greatly respect those who did engage in civil disobedience in<BR>this case; and am inspired by these protests to feel that my alarm<BR>regarding the potential of grave and long term global negative impacts<BR>from anthropogenic climate change is not as fringe as I might<BR>otherwise regard it...<BR><BR>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-August/055497.html<BR><BR>[Vision2020] Dodging Important Questions<BR>Dan Carscallen areaman at <A href="http://moscow.com/" target=_blank>moscow.com</A> wrote:<BR>Thu Aug 21 05:23:02 PDT 2008<BR><BR>Do I think there's some climate change going on? Maybe<BR><BR>If it is, do I think it's "anthropogenic"? Less likely that, more<BR>likely the sort of climate change that has been going on 'round the<BR>planet for the last 4 or 5 billion years.<BR><BR>Do I think people should do their part to "prevent" climate change?
I<BR>don't think we'll "prevent" anything. Change will happen.<BR>------------------------------------------<BR>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett<BR><BR>On 4/27/12, Joe Campbell <<A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> There was no comparison of truck drivers to Nazi guards. The point was<BR>> that you can't use "it was just my job" as an excuse for partaking in<BR>> a set of actions that are wrongful or harmful. Now you can debate<BR>> about whether their job contributes to actions that are wrongful or<BR>> harmful but to throw out the points made in what was a very well<BR>> written, well argued letter because the author happens to mention<BR>> something about Nazis is to be unfair, to say the least.<BR>><BR>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Donovan Arnold<BR>> <<A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> "He bemoans the lack of respect given for drivers and flaggers who were<BR>>> "just earning a living." There were employees at Auschwitz who were just<BR>>> doing their jobs too."<BR>>><BR>>> I believe the writer lost her audience's sympathies when comparing truck<BR>>> drivers and construction workers to Nazi concentration camp guards.<BR>>> Otherwise, I think many would have agreed with the stated concerns.<BR>>><BR>>> There is a bigger problem here than just oil. The problem is that<BR>>> corporations are able to influence politicians with cash donations and<BR>>> the<BR>>> public with "more jobs" rhetoric to the extent in which they do nothing<BR>>> about the planet being irreparably harmed and altered. The ladies at<BR>>> the Triangle Shirt
Factory all had jobs, but it didn't do them any good<BR>>> when<BR>>> the environmental and safety standards were cut.<BR>>><BR>>> Donovan Arnold<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: Joe Campbell <<A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> To: Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>>> Cc: Aaron Ament <<A href="mailto:aaronament@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:aaronament@moscow.com">aaronament@moscow.com</A>>; Jim Prall<BR>>> <<A href="mailto:bermanprall@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:bermanprall@gmail.com">bermanprall@gmail.com</A>>;<BR>>> Lois Blackburn <<A href="mailto:loisb@q.com" ymailto="mailto:loisb@q.com">loisb@q.com</A>>; Kathy Judson <<A href="mailto:ponysnpups@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:ponysnpups@gmail.com">ponysnpups@gmail.com</A>>; Borg<BR>>> Hendrickson <<A href="mailto:chicory@wildblue.net" ymailto="mailto:chicory@wildblue.net">chicory@wildblue.net</A>>; Friends ofthe Clearwater<BR>>> <<A href="mailto:foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org" ymailto="mailto:foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org">foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org</A>>; Moscow Vision 2020<BR>>> <<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>; Jeanne McHale <<A href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</A>>; Fritz<BR>>> Knorr <<A href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</A>>; Brett Haverstick <<A href="mailto:bhaverstick@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:bhaverstick@yahoo.com">bhaverstick@yahoo.com</A>>;<BR>>> Marilyn Beckett <<A
href="mailto:marilynbeckett@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:marilynbeckett@gmail.com">marilynbeckett@gmail.com</A>>; CherylHalverson<BR>>> <<A href="mailto:basketmakeart@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:basketmakeart@yahoo.com">basketmakeart@yahoo.com</A>>; Linwood Laughy <<A href="mailto:lin@wildblue.net" ymailto="mailto:lin@wildblue.net">lin@wildblue.net</A>>; HelenYost<BR>>> <<A href="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu" ymailto="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu">helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu</A>>; Dr. Dinah Zeiger <<A href="mailto:dzeiger@uidaho.edu" ymailto="mailto:dzeiger@uidaho.edu">dzeiger@uidaho.edu</A>><BR>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:12 AM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Award Well-Deserved<BR>>><BR>>> Ouch! Nice letter!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 5:06 AM, Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"
ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> Courtesy of today's (April 27, 2012) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.<BR>>><BR>>> -----------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> Award well-deserved<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Dan Carscallen wants everyone to know that the Mayor's Earth Day award to<BR>>> megaload protesters was not his idea (Letters to the Editor, April 20).<BR>>><BR>>> Perhaps he is smarter than the climate scientists who decry mining the<BR>>> Alberta Tar Sands as the final act of irreversible, anthropogenic climate<BR>>> change. Perhaps he doesn't mind that indigenous people of northern<BR>>> Alberta<BR>>> are suffering from alarming rates of rare cancers and being robbed of<BR>>> their<BR>>> livelihood as fish and other wildlife are poisoned.<BR>>><BR>>> He bemoans the lack of respect given for
drivers and flaggers who were<BR>>> "just<BR>>> earning a living." There were employees at Auschwitz who were just doing<BR>>> their jobs too. And he cites the need to have police "out in force"<BR>>> because<BR>>> "there was no telling what a protester might try." This statement implies<BR>>> that police were needed to prevent protesters from committing some<BR>>> unknown<BR>>> but apparently heinous act Carscallen imagines us to be capable of.<BR>>><BR>>> Police outnumbered protesters most nights because they were hired to<BR>>> protect<BR>>> the interests of ExxonMobil/Imperial Oil, not because there was any real<BR>>> threat to the transports. It would make more sense for our police to<BR>>> protect<BR>>> the citizenry from this rapacious corporation, rather than the other way<BR>>> around. Did we really need local, county and state police officers
to<BR>>> intimidate protesters as we exercised our constitutional rights?<BR>>><BR>>> We chanted, we held signs, we played horns and drums, we sang songs and,<BR>>> yes, some of us entered the crosswalk. All of these are perfectly legal<BR>>> actions except, apparently, when our state officials (and some local<BR>>> ones)<BR>>> invite Big Oil to use our roads on their climate-killing, genocidal<BR>>> mission.<BR>>><BR>>> Perhaps they'll remember us when they plan their next route. To Mayor<BR>>> Chaney, thank you. To Dan Carscallen, you're welcome.<BR>>><BR>>> Jeanne McHale, Moscow<BR>>><BR>>> -----------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>> Earth Day Award for Megaload Protestors - April 16, 2012<BR>>><BR>>> <A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm64L_ozZwQ"
target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm64L_ozZwQ</A><BR>>><BR>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>>><BR>>> Tom Hansen<BR>>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>><BR>>> "If not us, who?<BR>>> If not now, when?"<BR>>><BR>>> - Unknown<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>