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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Tom. You know, I’ve been driving for a long time does that make me qualified for the Grand Prix circuit? After all, if I crashed into a wall I would probably end up only hurting myself (since I think 60 mph is fast enough for anyone to drive). On the other hand, a self-appointed preacher, as Doug is, can do incalculable damage without having to take any responsibility and certainly (in his case) without oversight. It was surely in Doug’s best interest to have all the elders (who theoretically and biblically exercise oversight) all be employed by Kirk enterprises in various capacities. It is kind of terrifying isn’t it? Keely addresses this fact beautifully in her post.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rose<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Art Deco<br><b>Cc:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Spreading Homophobia<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The question of Wilson's "ordination" came up during the Great Christ Church Debate between Keely and Doug Wilson back on July 11, 2006 <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wilson's response was along the lines of, "I have been doing it for so long, I simply considered myself to be a pastor."<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Download and listen to it yourself.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----------------------------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"The Christ Church Debate" <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(approximately 2.5 hours in duration, 11.4 megabytes in file size)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On July 14, 2006, KRFP (a community radio station in Moscow, Idaho) broadcast a two-and-a-half-hour debate between Doug Wilson, Pastor of Christ Church, and Keely Emerine-Mix, a local concerned citizen with a strong theological background. The debate centered around Christ Church and its impact on the local community of Moscow.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com/Sounds/Church_Debate_Mix_Wilson_071106WMA.wma">http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com/Sounds/Church_Debate_Mix_Wilson_071106WMA.wma</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>-----------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Seeya round town, Moscow.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"If not us, who?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If not now, when?"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Unknown<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Apr 5, 2012, at 17:56, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I never understood how Cultmaster Douglas Wilson of Christ Church, Moscow, Idaho came to be ordained.<br><br>He didn't graduate and become accredited by a seminary, the usual route. Did he purchase one of those $10 Universal Church Ordinations? <br><br>Does anyone here know how he came to be ordained? Does he even claim to be ordained? Maybe one of the cult lurkers can explain, if anyone else can't.<br><br>Looking for edification.<br><br>w.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Rosemary Huskey <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well, I wish the “u” hadn’t stuck when I typed the word “pseudo – Christian.” On the other hand, I am really sorry that I had to use the term at all in reference to someone who claims the gift of ordination.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rose</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>keely emerinemix<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> undisclosed-recipients:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Spreading Homophobia<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>A comment from a fanboy writing on the Bayly brothers' blog, the home page photo for which has confused more than one viewer given the picture of these two handsome, tuxedoed men posing together, a glimpse of what will pass for "reasoned debate" and "learned commentary" at Wilson's talk:<br><br>"Will Doug speak to this phenomenon that homosexuality always follows ubiquitous use of contraception?"<br><br>Golly, I hope so. <br><br>But perhaps then he can talk about how if there really WERE global warming, which Wilson insists there isn't, of course, it would be caused by homosexuality. Then maybe he can talk about why Superman would be a great role model if only he ditched the tights. Then he could wrap up with how "Father Hunger" is the cause of the national debt . . . leading to a discussion of how both Presidents Bush, father and son, might finally reconcile, while still blaming President Obama for any immorality he, Wilson, sniffs out around us. <br><br>Or have we just heard this all before?<br> <br></span><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#8064A2'>Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a><br>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:05:33 -0700<br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spreading Homophobia</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have to wonder if he will be stopping by for a psedo-Christian chin wag with Rev. Fred Phelps who lives in the general area. Phelps and Wilson would make a dynamic duo on the evangelical speaking circuit, while simultaneously shaming the Gospel they profess to love. Anything-For-A-Dime Wilson has never minded slumming with debate partners (Hitchens and Dawkins) but of course there would be no debate with Phelps, since they are in profound agreement on the topic of homosexuality. What a pair of evil-spirited gits.l</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rose Huskey</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 05, 2012 2:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Art Deco<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Spreading Homophobia</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>It's really simple, Wayne.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>NO CHILD IS BORN HOMOPHOBIC !</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Seeya round town, Moscow.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Tom Hansen</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Moscow, Idaho</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>"If not us, who?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>If not now, when?"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>- Unknown</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>On Apr 5, 2012, at 14:33, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The epitome and hero of the local ignorant continues to attempt to deny equality and human rights: He, Christ Church Cultmaster Douglas Wilson, the self-claimed inerrant interpreter of the alleged inerrant word of some alleged god, the Bible, follows this dicta: If facts contradict the Bible, then the facts are wrong. <br><br>Crackpottery and con artistry rely on Barnum's "There's one [or more] born every minute." In the meantime millions of gay people face stigma and discrimination because of ignorant, arrogant egomaniacs/megalomaniacs like Christ Church Cultmaster Douglas Wilson continue to attempt to foist their religious delusions/superstitions on all.<br><br><a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/04/sex-at-indiana-univeristy-.html">http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/04/sex-at-indiana-univeristy-.html</a><br><br><a href="http://jesusatiu.com/sexual-design-series-lectures-doug-wilson">http://jesusatiu.com/sexual-design-series-lectures-doug-wilson</a><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<br><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><br> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>======================================================= List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a> =======================================================</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><br> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<br><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><br> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>