<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div><div>The question of Wilson's "ordination" came up during the Great Christ Church Debate between Keely and Doug Wilson back on July 11, 2006 </div><div><br></div><div>Wilson's response was along the lines of, "I have been doing it for so long, I simply considered myself to be a pastor."</div><div><br></div><div>Download and listen to it yourself.</div><div><br></div><div>-----------------------------</div><div> </div><div>"The Christ Church Debate" </div><div>(approximately 2.5 hours in duration, 11.4 megabytes in file size)</div><div><br></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: medium; ">On July 14, 2006, KRFP (a community radio station in Moscow, Idaho) broadcast a two-and-a-half-hour debate between Doug Wilson, Pastor of Christ Church, and Keely Emerine-Mix, a local concerned citizen with a strong theological background.<span> </span>The debate centered around<st1:placename w:st="on"> Christ</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">Church</st1:placetype> and its impact on the local community of Moscow.</span><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com/Sounds/Church_Debate_Mix_Wilson_071106WMA.wma"><a href="http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com/Sounds/Church_Debate_Mix_Wilson_071106WMA.wma">http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com/Sounds/Church_Debate_Mix_Wilson_071106WMA.wma</a></a></div><div><br></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">-----------------------------</span><div> </div><div><div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"If not us, who?</div><div>If not now, when?"</div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Apr 5, 2012, at 17:56, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I never understood how Cultmaster Douglas Wilson of Christ Church, Moscow, Idaho came to be ordained.<br><br>He didn't graduate and become accredited by a seminary, the usual route.  Did he purchase one of those $10 Universal Church Ordinations? <br>
<br>Does anyone here know how he came to be ordained?  Does he even claim to be ordained?  Maybe one of the cult lurkers can explain, if anyone else can't.<br><br>Looking for edification.<br><br>w.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Rosemary Huskey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com"></a><a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com"></a><a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com"><a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a></a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Well, I wish the “u” hadn’t stuck when I typed the word “pseudo – Christian.”  On the other hand,  I am really sorry that I had to use the term at all in reference to someone who claims the gift of ordination.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rose<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>keely emerinemix<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> undisclosed-recipients:</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Spreading Homophobia<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><p></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">A comment from a fanboy writing on the Bayly brothers' blog, the home page photo for which has confused more than one viewer given the picture of these two handsome, tuxedoed men posing together, a glimpse of what will pass for "reasoned debate" and "learned commentary" at Wilson's talk:<br>
<br>"Will Doug speak to this phenomenon that homosexuality always follows ubiquitous use of contraception?"<br><br>Golly, I hope so.  <br><br>But perhaps then he can talk about how if there really WERE global warming, which Wilson insists there isn't, of course, it would be caused by homosexuality.  Then maybe he can talk about why Superman would be a great role model if only he ditched the tights.  Then he could wrap up with how "Father Hunger" is the cause of the national debt . . . leading to a discussion of how both Presidents Bush, father and son, might finally reconcile, while still blaming President Obama for any immorality he, Wilson, sniffs out around us.  <br>
<br>Or have we just heard this all before?<br> <br></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#8064a2">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com"></a><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com"><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a></a><br>
<br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><hr align="center" size="2" width="100%">
</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From: <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com"></a><a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com"><a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a></a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a>; <a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></a><br>Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:05:33 -0700<br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spreading Homophobia<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have to wonder if he will be stopping by for a psedo-Christian chin wag with  Rev. Fred Phelps who  lives in the general area.  Phelps and Wilson would make a dynamic duo on the evangelical speaking circuit,  while simultaneously shaming the Gospel they profess to love.   Anything-For-A-Dime Wilson has never minded slumming with debate partners (Hitchens and Dawkins) but of course there would be no debate with Phelps, since they are in profound agreement on the topic of homosexuality.  What a pair of evil-spirited gits.l</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rose Huskey</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 05, 2012 2:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Art Deco<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Spreading Homophobia<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">It's really simple, Wayne.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">NO CHILD IS BORN HOMOPHOBIC !<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Seeya round town, Moscow.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Tom Hansen<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Moscow, Idaho<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">"If not us, who?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">If not now, when?"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">- Unknown<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>
On Apr 5, 2012, at 14:33, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The epitome and hero of the local ignorant continues to attempt to deny equality and human rights:  He, Christ Church Cultmaster Douglas Wilson, the self-claimed inerrant interpreter of the alleged inerrant word of some alleged god, the Bible, follows this dicta:  If facts contradict the Bible, then the facts are wrong.  <br>
<br>Crackpottery and con artistry rely on Barnum's "There's one [or more] born every minute."  In the meantime millions of gay people face stigma and discrimination because of ignorant, arrogant egomaniacs/megalomaniacs like Christ Church Cultmaster Douglas Wilson continue to attempt to foist their religious delusions/superstitions on all.<br>
<br><a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/04/sex-at-indiana-univeristy-.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/04/sex-at-indiana-univeristy-.html"></a><a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/04/sex-at-indiana-univeristy-.html"><a href="http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/04/sex-at-indiana-univeristy-.html">http://www.baylyblog.com/2012/04/sex-at-indiana-univeristy-.html</a></a><br><br><a href="http://jesusatiu.com/sexual-design-series-lectures-doug-wilson" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://jesusatiu.com/sexual-design-series-lectures-doug-wilson"></a><a href="http://jesusatiu.com/sexual-design-series-lectures-doug-wilson"><a href="http://jesusatiu.com/sexual-design-series-lectures-doug-wilson">http://jesusatiu.com/sexual-design-series-lectures-doug-wilson</a></a><br clear="all">
<br>-- <br>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<br><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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