Yes, Saundra,<br><br>The TPers/GOP do spread misinformation from dubious sources. Some knowingly so, some out of ignorance, some to justify normally unsupportable beliefs -- the latter noted by Rose when TPers think that the complex issue of constitutional law can be resolved by a few catch phrases instead of by a careful study of the complexity caused by the elasticity, vagueness, and ambiguity of the language of the constitution.<br>
<br>The GOP needs a grassroots effort to clean up and recapture their party and to stop using gross misinformation to sell their agenda. The local GOP might start with removing their current county chairperson, Walter Steed, whose slime coefficient might at any time exceed the threshold level, thereby turning him into liquid slime, and allowing him to flow down the nearest sewer.<br>
<br>w.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Nick and Saundra,<br><br>Don't confuse Santorum with facts: He has a war to fight.<br><br>What I find interesting is the kind of class warfare that's acceptable to some Republicans; or maybe to all of us, just so this isn't a D-R fight.<br>
<br>Santorum, highly educated himself, is using the old R playbook and attacking 'cultural elites.' That's permissible, and one can campaign all day on that.<br><br>But when we really talk about the distribution of wealth, and regressive tax policies, that's class warfare, and we should not talk about it. Romney says we should talk about tax policy and wealth distribution in quiet rooms. <br>
<br><a href="http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/01/shhhh-romney-wants-economy-talk-in-quiet-rooms.html" target="_blank">http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/01/shhhh-romney-wants-economy-talk-in-quiet-rooms.html</a><br>
<br>When wealth is distributed to the top; when wars that enrich companies like Halliburton are waged, that's not class warfare.<br><br>But when you say, 'We're getting screwed,' it is. And Wall Street does just fine, whether it's Ds or Rs in charge; they fund them all and get a great return on their investment.<br>
<br>I recommend Matt Taibbi's 'Griftopia' for anyone who wants a colorful look at the results of deregulation, and his take on Obamacare.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>Sunil<br></font></span><div>
<div class="hm HOEnZb"><div></div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:57:49 -0700</div><div><div class="h5"><br><br>
<div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Sunil,</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I didn’t take time to check out each & every CSU campus, but I checked enough to know that there <b>aren’t</b> seven or eight campuses that don’t offer US History. For anyone else interested, you can access each campus from the following link:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.calstate.edu/" target="_blank">http://www.calstate.edu/</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Here’s more about the UC facts:</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/education/2012/04/02/456547/santorum-uc-american-history/?mobile=nc" target="_blank">http://thinkprogress.org/education/2012/04/02/456547/santorum-uc-american-history/?mobile=nc</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In fact, of the 10 UC system schools, just one (San Francisco) doesn’t offer American history courses. But that’s because it doesn’t offer <i>any</i> humanities courses at all — it’s a medical school.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Meanwhile, <a href="http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_sends_request" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Berkeley</span></a>, <a href="http://www.editor.uci.edu/catalogue/hum/hum.14.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Irvine</span></a>, <a href="http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/ucdwebcatalog/PDF/07GenCatUgradEdu.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Davis</span></a>, <a href="http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/catalog/catalog11-12-400.htm#445416584_pgfId-1003847" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Los Angeles</span></a>, <a href="http://ssha.ucmerced.edu/2.asp?uc=1&lvl2=41&lvl3=41&lvl4=107&contentid=144" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Merced</span></a>, <a href="http://catalog.ucr.edu/scribd.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Riverside</span></a>, <a href="http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/courses/HIST.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">San Diego</span></a>, <a href="http://my.sa.ucsb.edu/Catalog/Current/CollegesDepartments/ls-intro/hist.aspx?DeptTab=Courses" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Santa Barbara</span></a>, and <a href="http://reg.ucsc.edu/catalog/html/undergrad_acad.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">Santa Cruz</span></a> all offer numerous American history courses. All require students to take U.S. history before they can graduate.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">University of California spokesperson Brooke Converse emailed to note that <a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/counselors/graduation-requirements/history/index.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:#333333">every single UC undergraduate program is required</span></a> to study “American history and institutions,” though specific requirements vary at each campus.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It seems to me the real question is: what exactly is it that Santorum was reading to give him such gross misinformation? Quite the hit job – no matter how inaccurate -- on California higher education, but is that surprising coming from Santorum?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The baffling thing to me is that even when the GOP/TPers get snookered by special interest groups that thrive on providing misinformation, they don’t seem to learn the lesson & keep right on sucking up the muck.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Saundra</span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sunil Ramalingam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 02, 2012 9:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Say What?</span></p></div></div><p> </p><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Nick,<br>
<br>Tim White got his doctorate at Berkeley, and didn't go to Davis.<br><br>I went to Davis and took courses on American history there. Maybe Santorum meant the Cal State system? Hmm, I went to Sac State too, and took American history courses there too. Maybe they took them off the curriculum.<br>
<br>Sunil</span></p><div><div style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:18:18 -0700<br>
From: <a href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com" target="_blank">ngier006@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br><br>I'm sure that the entire UC system has responded to Santorum already, but I just checked the history dept. at UC Davis (that is where our illustrious former president Time White went) and they have tons of courses on American history.</span></p>
<div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Nick</span></p>
<div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">"I was just reading something last night from the state of California. And that the California universities - I think it’s seven or eight of the California system of universities don’t even teach an American history course. It’s not even available to be taught."<br>
<br>- Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum (April 2, 2012)<br><br>---------------<br><br><a href="http://sfist.com/2012/04/02/rick_santorum_claims_california_universities_are_ruining_america.php" target="_blank">http://sfist.com/2012/04/02/rick_santorum_claims_california_universities_are_ruining_america.php</a><br>
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